# Misogynistic rock lyrics

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 7, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynistic-rock-lyrics/293357 "2005-03-07T13:59:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynistic-rock-lyrics/293357/1 "2005-03-07T13:59:43Z")

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_Well I’d rather see you dead, little girl,  
Than to be with another man_  
—Beatles, “Run for Your Life”\*

_Under my thumb’s the girl who once had me down_  
—Stones, “Under My Thumb”

_God created Man from dust, with a soul inside his mould  
And God created Womankind, the vessel of Satan’s hold_ :rolleyes:  
—Genesis, “The Serpent”

_Lots of people talkin’, few of them know  
Soul of a woman was created below_  
—Led Zeppelin, “Dazed and Confused”

\*(To John Lennon’s credit, he made amends for this crap near the end of his life, with his great song “Woman.”)

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**Author:** ![thwartme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynistic-rock-lyrics/293357/2 "2005-03-07T14:15:19Z")

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Doesn’t misogyny refer to a generalized hatred of all woman-kind? I think the first two selections are a little too specific. I think it’s possible to hate a particular woman without being misogynistic.

And the Beatles tune isn’t even hatred. It’s advocating violence, sure, but it’s about jealousy, not hatred.

thwartme

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynistic-rock-lyrics/293357/3 "2005-03-07T14:16:19Z")

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_Well I’d rather see you dead, little girl,  
Than to be with another man_

— Elvis Presley, “Baby Let’s Play House” (words and music by Arthur Gunter)

/nitpick

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynistic-rock-lyrics/293357/4 "2005-03-07T14:42:50Z")

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The Beatles lyric is –

Run for your life if you can, little girl  
Hide your head in the sand, little girl  
Catch you with another man  
That’s the end-DAH, little girl

Yes, it’s violent, anti-social, and all kinds of bad things, but I wouldn’t call it misogynistic. It may exemplify all kinds of negative traits, but I don’t think it shows a generalized hatred of women. Indeed, it’s a specific sentiment, not generalized. It exemplifies jealousy, not hatred, and it’s not about women in general.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynistic-rock-lyrics/293357/5 "2005-03-07T16:55:27Z")

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Almost the entirety of _sextypething_ by STP. Oddly enough, it’s obvious that it’s so over the top that the composer doesn’t actually mean it but is rather inhabiting a character, which is common in STP songs, yet Weiland was accused of violence against women.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogynistic-rock-lyrics/293357/6 "2005-03-07T17:08:08Z")

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Every single song by _The Mentors_. I win.

[Wikipedia Entry](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mentors)

[Popup-Filled Lyric Site](http://www.elyrics.net/songs/m/Mentors%20Lyrics)

> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Almost the entirety of _sextypething_ by STP. Oddly enough, it’s obvious that it’s so over the top that the composer doesn’t actually mean it but is rather inhabiting a character, which is common in STP songs, yet Weiland was accused of violence against women.

I remember hearing Weiland defend the song when it first came out. Now, I have no problem at all with singing a song in character, but this probably should have been thought out a little better.

“Hi, I’m Scott Weiland. I don’t want people to think of me as misogynistic. Therefore, we will release the most misogynistic song on our album _as our debut single_”. :smack:
