Misogyny and pop culture: don't yuck my yum! (Spoilers for the movie Poor Things)

[Nicest_of_the_Damned]

@BigT

That is because the OP framed it that way. Eonwe decided that everyone who got upset at them is a misogynist. They set it up implying they are a woman who is being shouted down by the men.

No, they didn’t. This is the post that elicited all the hostility. It’s pretty mild. Again, if you thought it was threadshitting you should have flagged it for a mod. As far as I can see nothing in it runs afoul of Cafe Society posting rules.

@Eonwe

I haven’t seen it mostly because the trailer and pre-release talk made me skeptical. This thread confirms.

A movie written by a man, based on a book written by a man, directed by a man, about a thin attractive woman who begins the story in a place of innocence, and discovers that sex is liberating and one of her favorite things, and is dtf lots of people in lots of ways on her quest to understand herself and the world. But she totally does it on her terms, because female empowerment!

I think the hostile responses were over the top. Several women (I think) have said they understand Eonwe’s reaction and have explained why.

@puzzlegal

I gotta say, from the descriptions of the movie in this and the other thread, given by people who saw it and liked it, it sure as hell sounds like a misogynistic movie informed solely by the male gaze. I’m kinda curious why y’all think it’s not an example of that.

@Spice_Weasel

Which brings up another general issue raised by the OP. It’s easy to dispassionately deconstruct the themes of a film when you have no real skin in the game. I think people in this position should be more mindful toward people who actually are affected by the issues in question. Not deferential, but at least recognizing that hey, maybe this is personal to some people.

@Kimstu

And that’s why reading about a movie premise with a (male-written) “strong” “liberated” female protagonist who is sexually uninhibited and socially unafraid, without any “baggage” involving reproductive-system worries or gender-stereotyped socialization, etc., makes a lot of women reflexively roll their eyes. Because we’ve already seen a lot of such protagonists produced by lazy and/or oblivious male writers, and they don’t really feel like actual female characters.

@BigT

It honestly isn’t that different from mansplaining. That’s not a man explaining something to a woman. It’s a man who lacks experience or knowledge condescendingly explaining things to a woman.

Oh! Thank you so much for explaining that to me! Can you also explain The Godfather and how the selection tool works in Photoshop?

@BigT

Of fucking course I understand women being frustrated by a lack of representation.

You repeatedly demonstrate that you do not.

@BigT

Plus I have long hated it when people misquote me like you did. And, yes, a quote out of context that ignores all the context is a misquote.

I genuinely don’t understand why you think my quote was out of context. I quoted the part I was referencing. The entire quote can easily be seen with one click if people want more context.