# Misogyny on board **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 13, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617 "2013-04-13T17:03:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/281 "2013-04-15T23:39:40Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > We’re arguing for judicious application of existing rules-- namely the “don’t be a jerk” rule, not new ones. How’s arguing for colloquial speech just about anywhere I know not a “new rule”? For Og’s sake **Marley/Diosa** , please don’t tell me you haven’t been called a “dick, cunt, faggot, blah and fuckin’ blah” and any an all variants of those? Because if you haven’t, you’ve lived quite a sheltered life. I understand your position, as I do some of the arguments – if something is clearly offensive and directed at one person bring down The Ban Hammer. Otherwise, listen to **Dexter**. He’s the one making sense around here. Know what? Certain perfumes give me the vapors – as in literally making me dizzy. I have never thought of asking to ban them. Seriously, for a thread this long, it’s really a non-issue. Bunch of oversensitive…choose gender. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/282 "2013-04-15T23:43:46Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > I understand your position, as I do some of the arguments – if something is clearly offensive and directed at one person bring down The Ban Hammer. Since you’ve acknowledged this, I have no idea what you’re arguing _against_. Do you think you could clear that up at all? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/283 "2013-04-15T23:44:17Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Seriously, for a thread this long, it’s really a non-issue. No, it’s not. Your turn. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/284 "2013-04-15T23:53:47Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Since you’ve acknowledged this, I have no idea what you’re arguing _against_. Do you think you could clear that up at all? But of course. Outside The Pit, hammer it. Really not rocket-science _In The Pit_, I see nothing wrong with boob & dick jostling – yes, that’s a double entrée. Less we have a new rule The Offenderati can always stay out… ETA-- and if it’s even too crude for there, report it. Surely one of you guys/gals will reach a judgement eventually. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/285 "2013-04-15T23:55:01Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > No, it’s not. > > Your turn. No. I insist, ladies first and last. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/286 "2013-04-15T23:56:54Z")
The thread in question started in MPSIMS. Once again, people aren’t arguing that the pit should be nicer. Maybe you should read the whole thread. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/287 "2013-04-15T23:57:39Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > But of course. Outside The Pit, hammer it. Really not rocket-science > > _In The Pit_, I see nothing wrong with boob & dick jostling – yes, that’s a double entrée. Less we have a new rule The Offenderati can always stay out… From what I can tell you’re still not disagreeing with anything that anyone has proposed. So you can stop calling people oversensitive and offenderati now. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/288 "2013-04-16T00:02:22Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > From what I can tell you’re still not disagreeing with anything that anyone has proposed. So you can stop calling people oversensitive and offenderati now. Gee, thanks, Overlord. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/289 "2013-04-16T00:05:44Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > The thread in question started in MPSIMS. Once again, people aren’t arguing that the pit should be nicer. Maybe you should read the whole thread. You have point, Ma’am. Just seems so much adoo about nothing. But I could be wrong…however unlikely that is. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/290 "2013-04-16T00:06:07Z")
Nm just saw the new post. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/291 "2013-04-16T00:07:26Z")
It might seem that way to you if you are not directly affected by it, but certainly the volume of posters who are concerned about it should mean something, no? ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/292 "2013-04-16T00:56:41Z")
I don’t mean any disrespect to the board administration, but i don’t understand why it is so difficult to actively moderate sexist comments. I suppose there are some instances where sexism is in the eye of the beholder. But, there are so many instances where it is a clear cut cases that it seems like a waste of time even bringing up these few instances where it’s possible to question it. For instance, If there is a thread where a woman complains about a problem with her body and a poster responds with “Picz?!” the poster should be warned for threadshitting. It’s not conductive to good conversation, and it obviously, makes many posters uncomfortable. These types of situations happen often enough that it makes sense to police the board culture to make it more inviting to more people. If that makes it so people who like to make hackneyed jokes about a woman’s body no longer feel comfortable around here, I’m not exactly mourning the loss. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/293 "2013-04-16T01:13:38Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > What’s awesome is that, having played the “what’s the word really mean?” hijack, now you’re playing the “Why are you quashing free speech?” hijack COUPLED WITH the “I’m just being calm and you’re all freaked out!” hijack. That’s like the trifecta of distractions! Not gonna play, dude. Well played my friend, you just beat **ladyfoxfyre**. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/294 "2013-04-16T01:50:36Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Large note: The names are spelled diferently(Traci Lords vs. Tracy Lord), and she has already said that she named her character after the one in _The Philadelphia Story_. Both of these facts have already come up previously, so now there is no excuse, is there? Well, there is an excuse if someone has not read nor memorized her every post. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Small note: I have seen people making the suggestion that perhaps our poster **Tracy Lord** is suspicious because she named herself after porn star Tracy Lords, but the first thing that came to _my_ mind is that she named herself after the character in _The Philadelphia Story_, Tracy Lord. Feh! What sort of loser would name him- or herself after a character in THAT crappy movie? 😉 But seriously, I know it sounds amazing–I’m repeatedly amazed by it myself–but there are some posters who have NOT memorized every atom of popular culture from the past century. > [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > There’s been at least one poster, and possibly more than one, who repeatedly said “women don’t know what they want” and stated that therefore it’s OK to ignore what a woman says and go ahead and do what you want…if you’re a man, that is. And there is nothing to stop someone from pointing and laughing at him. This is not Real Life. A women here is not in physical danger for standing up for herself. Some guy’s being a jerk? Rip him a new asshole with your words. All of the women in this thread are perfectly capable of it; I’ve seen them in action. Maybe the jerk will fight back, but his defense is so baseless in fact you can only make him look like an idiot, and maybe convert some clueless Joe like me who never knew we had a problem with misogyny. Don’t retreat to some lesser board just because people play nicer there. FIGHT FOR THIS ONE! I know you think this board is worth saving because you are fighting for it in this thread. And, speaking as someone who was supporting women’s rights since before some of you were born, skulking off because some asshole hurt your widdle feelings is totally girly, and I use that word in a consciously offensive manner. You wouldn’t see Susan B Anthony or Betty Friedan or Bella Abzug backing away from a fight because some scary man said something mean. Women were returned their God-given rights because some very tough women made it happen. You can do it here on a smaller scale by doing some verbal ass-kicking. > [@Dangerosa](#): > > I hate that we need to have a naughty word list. People should realize that calling people certain words does make you a jerk. Then again, many (most?) of us had no idea that “cunt” had symbolic meaning beyond just being a rude word you don’t use in front of Mom. I’m still not sure that’s generally true, partly because I don’t use it elsewhere and partly because there’s no male equivalent that can’t be used on network TV after 10PM Eastern Time. It makes men say, “Huh? What’s the big deal?” because it doesn’t seem to be that big a deal **anywhere** else. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/295 "2013-04-16T02:12:32Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > And, speaking as someone who was supporting women’s rights since before some of you were born, skulking off because some asshole hurt your widdle feelings is totally girly, and I use that word in a consciously offensive manner. If this is how you’ve been doing it, I think it might be okay if you stopped now. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/296 "2013-04-16T02:16:51Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > Is calling someone a dick equally as bad/misandrist? > > I would say that neither word, by itself, represents misogynystic/misandrist thinking. I’d say that in US usage cunt is sexist, because it’s almost exclusively applied to women (dick is more universal IME). In the UK, I’ve noticed that usage of “cunt” and “twat” are a bit more evenhanded, so in UK usage I’d say it’s not sexist, just another curse word. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/297 "2013-04-16T02:19:33Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > And, speaking as someone who was supporting women’s rights since before some of you were born, skulking off because some asshole hurt your widdle feelings is totally girly, and I use that word in a consciously offensive manner. You wouldn’t see Susan B Anthony or Betty Friedan or Bella Abzug backing away from a fight because some scary man said something mean. Women were returned their God-given rights because some very tough women made it happen. You can do it here on a smaller scale by doing some verbal ass-kicking. I would like to think that you cannot possibly begin to have the first glimmering of a clue how condescending, obnoxious, and offensive this is. But unfortunately, you admitted up-front that you were being deliberately offensive, so I guess I can’t think that. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/298 "2013-04-16T02:21:55Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > I’d say that in US usage cunt is sexist, because it’s almost exclusively applied to women (dick is more universal IME). In the UK, I’ve noticed that usage of “cunt” and “twat” are a bit more evenhanded, so in UK usage I’d say it’s not sexist, just another curse word. Also, in the US the term “cunt” is vastly more taboo than it is the UK. In the DVD commentary for the movie Dog Soldiers, one of the producers talked about the difficulty they had in getting the actors to agree to a change in an ad-libbed scene where one of the soldiers was screaming “shiv the cunt, shiv the cunt” when stabbing the werewolf and the producer kept explaining that American audiences would react really badly to the use of the term and the actors didn’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/299 "2013-04-16T02:27:52Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > And, speaking as someone who was supporting women’s rights since before some of you were born, skulking off because some asshole hurt your widdle feelings is totally girly, and I use that word in a consciously offensive manner. So we have a third person in this thread who is announcing that they are deliberately saying something to be offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/300 "2013-04-16T02:55:37Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Also, in the US the term “cunt” is vastly more taboo than it is the UK. > > In the DVD commentary for the movie Dog Soldiers, one of the producers talked about the difficulty they had in getting the actors to agree to a change in an ad-libbed scene where one of the soldiers was screaming “shiv the cunt, shiv the cunt” when stabbing the werewolf and the producer kept explaining that American audiences would react really badly to the use of the term and the actors didn’t understand. In 2000 in the UK it ranked as the #1 offensive word in a BBC survey [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617.md?page=16)