# Misogyny on board **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 13, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617 "2013-04-13T17:03:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/61 "2013-04-14T06:14:41Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > What board culture would that be? Could it possibly be one of misogyny? Men joking awkwardly about a subject they arent really familiar with and is fun…not misogynistic. Men saying who cares? or da biaches shouldnt post here is misogynistic. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/62 "2013-04-14T06:35:24Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Men joking awkwardly about a subject they arent really familiar with and is fun…not misogynistic. Sexual harassment might be fun for you, but some of the women here would like to be able to post even indirectly about something to do with our bodies without a derp rolling in and asking if he can fondle us. Take for example, [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680782) We have an OP legitimately worried about her health, asking a question about something that could potentially be a major issue and almost immediately, the [stupid starts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15955747&postcount=5). And [continues](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15955749&postcount=6). Then, when it’s pointed out [how offensive and out of place](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15955932&postcount=7) those harassing comments are, there’s a literal[_get the sand out of your vagina_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15956441&postcount=14), dismissive, sexist bs response. Now, to **Ellen Cherry** ’s credit, she did reprimand the poster for his sandy vagina comment, but the original sexually harassing bullshit stood. This is just one of _countless_ examples of this nonsense. Those of type of comments make this board a hostile place for our female members-- hell, you even have someone in here who is _defending_ the ‘no means maybe’ crowd saying that even she is knows better than to ask about her boobs in this place. That should tell you something. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/63 "2013-04-14T06:47:38Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Sexual harassment might be fun for you, but some of the women here would like to be able to post even indirectly about something to do with our bodies without a derp rolling in and asking if he can fondle us. > > Take for example, [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680782) We have an OP legitimately worried about her health, asking a question about something that could potentially be a major issue and almost immediately, the [stupid starts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15955747&postcount=5). And [continues](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15955749&postcount=6). Then, when it’s pointed out [how offensive and out of place](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15955932&postcount=7) those harassing comments are, there’s a literal[_get the sand out of your vagina_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15956441&postcount=14), dismissive, sexist bs response. Now, to **Ellen Cherry** ’s credit, she did reprimand the poster for his sandy vagina comment, but the original sexually harassing bullshit stood. > > This is just one of _countless_ examples of this nonsense. Those of type of comments make this board a hostile place for our female members-- hell, you even have someone in here who is _defending_ the ‘no means maybe’ crowd saying that even she is knows better than to ask about her boobs in this place. That should tell you something. Note: I will not be posting crap like this; but, people have their ox gored here all the time. If you want special protection for your concerns..why shouldnt all other groups be granted equal protection? Margaret Thatcher died this week; a powerful and decisive female politician. A few on the left were as equally sexist and dismissive as those so-called misogynists whom you call out. Should they be moderated as well? Why not? Snark rules at this site. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/64 "2013-04-14T06:56:18Z")
Protip: Margaret Thatcher isn’t a poster here. She’s dead. I’m willing to wager she doesn’t give a goody goddamned about someone saying anything about her tits, liberal or conservative. But see, that’s the difference: the sexual harassment we’re talking about? It’s directed at actual female posters on this board, who are currently active members. Women trying to talk about health, their lives, and whatever the hell else they want to— just like the men get to do, sans harassment. I suppose if you consider sexual harassment a woman’s concern, consider yourself lucky that you aren’t arsed with that reality. Unwanted sexual advances when you’re trying to have a serious discussion suck. Well, unwanted sexual advances suck period, but they especially suck when you’re trying to talk about something unrelated. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/65 "2013-04-14T06:59:18Z")
This is hilarious. Not being harassed by people is a special protection? I mean, this knife cuts both ways. You can’t both demand that you be allowed to be sexist and that others should not be allowed to call you on your sexism. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/66 "2013-04-14T07:08:41Z")
Perhaps I am mistaken, but usually when a man posts about a ‘mans problem’, there are similar male jokes. While I do believe that some males are hateful and malicious in female directed threads, I also believe that other male responders are misunderstood…Pan, for example; he wasnt malicious but was butchered anyway. In a free multi-cultural multi-ideological environment we are all going to be offended. Isnt the best way to deal with the offense a robust reply? ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/67 "2013-04-14T07:11:06Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Sexual harassment might be fun for you, but some of the women here would like to be able to post even indirectly about something to do with our bodies without a derp rolling in and asking if he can fondle us. > > Take for example, [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=680782) We have an OP legitimately worried about her health, asking a question about something that could potentially be a major issue and almost immediately, the [stupid starts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15955747&postcount=5). And [continues](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15955749&postcount=6). Then, when it’s pointed out [how offensive and out of place](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15955932&postcount=7) those harassing comments are, there’s a literal[_get the sand out of your vagina_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15956441&postcount=14), dismissive, sexist bs response. Now, to **Ellen Cherry** ’s credit, she did reprimand the poster for his sandy vagina comment, but the original sexually harassing bullshit stood. > > This is just one of _countless_ examples of this nonsense. Those of type of comments make this board a hostile place for our female members-- hell, you even have someone in here who is _defending_ the ‘no means maybe’ crowd saying that even she is knows better than to ask about her boobs in this place. That should tell you something. I don’t know about the rest of your posts, but there is a stunning amount of misrepresentation in this one. This is the OP’s response to the comments you label as “the stupid” and “offensive and out of place” > [@](#): > > And lol at the requests for pics. My husband is in your camp–the more the merrier as far as he’s concerned. And DvorJaques, mine are perkier too! Just wish I knew why. And this is the “literal” sand in the vagina quote > [@](#): > > Next time, wear undies in the sandbox. Except that, not only is there no literal vagina in it, it is also directly addressed to a post which was made by someone who explicitly stated in that post that he was a guy. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/68 "2013-04-14T07:11:06Z")
Find me a thread where a man posts a serious medical issue, with no jokes or alluring to anything sexual, where female Dopers roll in and ask for dick or ball pics. Go ahead. I’ll wait. > [@bldysabba](#): > > I don’t know about the rest of your posts, but there is a stunning amount of misrepresentation in this one. This is the OP’s response to the comments you label as “the stupid” and “offensive and out of place” > > And this is the “literal” sand in the vagina quote > > Except that, not only is there no literal vagina in it, it is also directly addressed to a post which was made by someone who explicitly stated in that post that he was a guy. She can not be offended all day long, that’s her right. It’s just one fantastically egregious example of the type of posts we’re talking about. If you’d like, I’m sure we can find a long list of posts where the target was deeply offended. Further, you do understand that telling a man to get the sand out of his vagina is still sexist, even if it’s directed at a man, right? In fact, it’s even more sexist because it goes above the actual comment’s insult and uses femininity as an insult against a man, implying that it is lower than the male state of things. C’mon now. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/69 "2013-04-14T07:15:02Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Find me a thread where a man posts a serious medical issue, with no jokes or alluring to anything sexual, where female Dopers roll in and ask for dick or ball pics. > > Go ahead. I’ll wait. Have any female dopers been prevented from doing so? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/70 "2013-04-14T07:19:44Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Have any female dopers been prevented from doing so? Shut this thread down. There’s no way it can get any funnier than this response right here. Not possible, no way. Sir, I salute you. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/71 "2013-04-14T07:20:16Z")
That’s, uh, that’s an interesting reaction to her post. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/72 "2013-04-14T07:22:20Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Find me a thread where a man posts a serious medical issue, with no jokes or alluring to anything sexual, where female Dopers roll in and ask for dick or ball pics. > > Go ahead. I’ll wait. What I was saying is that males use humor to deflect uncomfortable feelings..thus, in male oriented threads you will also likely find male humor. Now the pics thing is complicated. While I absolutely agree that some males coerce nude pics from females, I have also known attractive women that are willing to basically market their goods. Men should be savvy enough to know the woman enough to understand whether the request would be welcomed. But some women do welcome it. Men, others dont. ---
**Author:** ![panaccione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@panaccione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panaccione)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/73 "2013-04-14T07:28:37Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Expressing justified anger is not a lack of control. Being infuriated and directing at the person who angered you is not lack of control. You can call angry women any dismissive term you want, it doesn’t make it so. Well, I disagree. If someone calls me a “tard”, it doesn’t affect me. Because I know I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/74 "2013-04-14T07:33:03Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > What I was saying is that males use humor to deflect uncomfortable feelings..thus, in male oriented threads you will also likely find male humor. > > Now the pics thing is complicated. While I absolutely agree that some males coerce nude pics from females, I have also known attractive women that are willing to basically market their goods. Men should be savvy enough to know the woman enough to understand whether the request would be welcomed. But some women do welcome it. Men, others dont. If a woman posts a thread about a health issue related to her breasts and a man is uncomfortable to the point of not being able to contribute anything but a potentially offensive joke, the easy answer is for him _to just not post in the thread_. No, I ask you: was the OP in the thread I linked to “marketing” her “goods?” We had a thread recently where a woman posted a pit thread about her tits, including animated GIFs of her jiggling bosom. God bless her. That’s her right. And the even the socially inept of the Dope can read that thread and know it’s 1: ok to talk about her breasts and 2: ok to compliment her breasts or even ask for more pictures. One must only be the lowest qualification of “savvy” to get this. This type of thread, however, is patently different than ones where someone is asking for HEALTH ADVICE. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/75 "2013-04-14T07:34:59Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Find me a thread where a man posts a serious medical issue, with no jokes or alluring to anything sexual, where female Dopers roll in and ask for dick or ball pics. > > Go ahead. I’ll wait. So, men and women are different. Your point? > [@](#): > > She can not be offended all day long, that’s her right. It’s just one fantastically egregious example of the type of posts we’re talking about. If you’d like, I’m sure we can find a long list of posts where the target was deeply offended. Further, you do understand that telling a man to get the sand out of his vagina is still sexist, even if it’s directed at a man, right? In fact, it’s even more sexist because it goes above the actual comment’s insult and uses femininity as an insult against a man, implying that it is lower than the male state of things. C’mon now. It’s her _reaction_ to not take offence, yes. The comments made may not be particularly funny or original, but they’re also not as clearly offensive as you seem to think they are. I don’t think anyone has a right to “not be offended” by other people’s comments, especially when it is pretty clear nobody is trying to offend. Also, why on earth do you keep insisting that there was a vagina involved in that comment? I’m a guy, and I’d imagine sand in my nether regions would make me plenty grouchy, if perhaps not as much as it’d make a woman. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/76 "2013-04-14T07:41:47Z")
> [@bldysabba](#): > > Also, why on earth do you keep insisting that there was a vagina involved in that comment? I’m a guy, and I’d imagine sand in my nether regions would make me plenty grouchy, if perhaps not as much as it’d make a woman. You understand that telling a person to get the sand out of their vagina is actually a colloquial saying, yes? No one says, “get the sand off your dick.” Hell, [even South Park did a whole episode where “sandy vagina” was a running gag](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scaAz1zcdXI). ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/77 "2013-04-14T07:41:48Z")
Are. . .are you honestly trying to argue that “undies in the sandbox” does not come directly from the much more common "sand in the vagina"comment? ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/78 "2013-04-14T07:44:38Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Are. . .are you honestly trying to argue that “undies in the sandbox” does not come directly from the much more common "sand in the vagina"comment? I think they honestly aren’t aware that’s a saying. Otherwise their comment is beyond ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/79 "2013-04-14T07:48:09Z")
I am really feeling [this gif](http://i.imgur.com/SEpCU.gif) in reaction to this thread and these discussions. I mean, in some ways I don’t even consider this a gender issue, it’s straight up manners. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2013, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617/80 "2013-04-14T07:49:52Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > You understand that telling a person to get the sand out of their vagina is actually a colloquial saying, yes? No one says, “get the sand off your dick.” Hell, [even South Park did a whole episode where “sandy vagina” was a running gag](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scaAz1zcdXI). > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Are. . .are you honestly trying to argue that “undies in the sandbox” does not come directly from the much more common "sand in the vagina"comment? I understand that the poster in question is NOT telling anybody to get sand out of their vagina. That is a construct you’re imposing onto what someone else is saying. Which may tell you something about why there should be less moderation where possible, not more. p.s And no, nobody says get sand off your dick, but sand in the asscrack has to be painful, no? And pretty likely from sitting in a sandbox without undies [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-board/655617.md?page=5)