# Misogyny on the SDMB, Sept. 2018 edition **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 25, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899 "2018-09-25T17:45:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/141 "2018-09-28T17:24:39Z")
> [@expectopatronum](#): > > It actually works quite well. You permabox someone so they can only post in that forum and not spread their BS all over the board. Posters can opt to go in the box to engage with them if they like. And most of the time, someone who is permaboxed elects to leave on their own because it’s no fun being stuck in there and rambling to a handful of posters. It’s a win-win. On a extremely small board, with a handful of posters. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/142 "2018-09-28T17:38:42Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > On a extremely small board, with a handful of posters. The “handful of posters” I referred to was talking about the posters who opt to go into the box and interact with whoever’s locked in there. Most posters don’t bother. I mean, yes GB is smaller than here, but we’ve certainly got more than a handful of posters. I don’t see why the concept couldn’t work here, but I know it’ll probably never happen. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/143 "2018-09-28T17:59:32Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > This is fucking gross. You are suspended for 3 days while we discuss what to do with you. > > [/moderating] What a relief! Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/144 "2018-09-28T18:26:09Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > This is fucking gross. You are suspended for 3 days while we discuss what to do with you. > > [/moderating] Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/145 "2018-09-28T18:54:06Z")
Thanks, **Bone,** you are now my favorite Dope mode! ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/146 "2018-09-28T18:56:02Z")
Oh really? Back in the glorious 60s, women viewed being pinned down, muzzled and having their clothes ripped off as a “minor annoyance”? Gee thanks for that useful information, Grandpa Rapey. I guess we really have become a nation of wilting liberals if women won’t even tolerate That anymore. Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/147 "2018-09-28T19:24:53Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > This is fucking gross. You are suspended for 3 days while we discuss what to do with you. > > [/moderating] Well done, and much appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/148 "2018-09-28T19:37:25Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I’m already not paying because of the lack of moderation on racism, but the moderation on sexism is making me not pay twice as hard. Pretty much this. If this place wants my money, it can do more than hand wring and wail “but decisions are _hard_” when it comes to moderating the genuine despicables. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/149 "2018-09-28T21:48:52Z")
It’s funny - the women I knew that went through things like this in the 60s have often said to me “I am so proud of you for standing up and having a voice against this - we never had a voice. We never had the support.” This has been a really hard week, for me and others I know. So many of us trying to work the system, and fix what is broken. Threads like this one may have caused some of us even more pause before coming forward. I don’t know how to fix the Dope. I know I have been a member here forever, or so it seems. I know I love a lot of the posters here, and I hope we can make it work. But I am tired, as I am sure a lot of women (and some men) are. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/150 "2018-09-28T22:40:37Z")
It may be as difficult to root out the misogyny here as it is out in fleshworld, but maybe it’s worth it in both cases. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/151 "2018-09-28T22:50:24Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It may be as difficult to root out the misogyny here as it is out in fleshworld, but maybe it’s worth it in both cases. Always worth it. But sometimes it’s nice to stand easy for a bit too 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/152 "2018-09-29T00:02:30Z")
I haven’t read the entire thread, but I am tired of the attitude towards women here. My daughter is just turning 10, and I look at the posts thinking of how I would have to explain them to her. I hope that the administration and moderators can find a better way forward. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/153 "2018-09-29T00:08:33Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > I haven’t read the entire thread, but I am tired of the attitude towards women here. > > My daughter is just turning 10, and I look at the posts thinking of how I would have to explain them to her. > > I hope that the administration and moderators can find a better way forward. Ok, O agree, but I hope we can draw a line between stuff like victim blaming & rape apology and fun but maybe too “boys club” like “Who is hotter Betty or Wilma?”. We need to moderate and get rid of the first, but only tone down the second, imho. Us guys are a little clueless at times, but as long as we keep the nasty mean spirited crap out, we can work slowly on the joking around. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/154 "2018-09-29T00:21:59Z")
You may indeed be a titch clueless. Care to wager how much sexual assault has been brushed aside as ‘joking around’? Theses particular words are very likely to grate on some of the posters in this thread. Certainly not intended, I’m sure, but somewhat tone deaf notwithstanding. Just sayin’, perhaps not in \*this \*thread, or perhaps a different phrase? Only an observation. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/155 "2018-09-29T00:26:35Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > This is fucking gross. You are suspended for 3 days while we discuss what to do with you. > > [/moderating] [Wayne’s World] We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy! We’re not Worthy! [Wayne’s World] Seriously, I cannot thank you enough. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/156 "2018-09-29T00:50:07Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > You may indeed be a titch clueless. > > Care to wager how much sexual assault has been brushed aside as ‘joking around’? Theses particular words are very likely to grate on some of the posters in this thread. > > Certainly not intended, I’m sure, but somewhat tone deaf notwithstanding. > > Just sayin’, perhaps not in \*this \*thread, or perhaps a different phrase? > > Only an observation. That’s true. And we need to watch it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/157 "2018-09-29T02:25:09Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > This is fucking gross. You are suspended for 3 days while we discuss what to do with you. > > [/moderating] If we have a voice here, I _strongly_ urge that you ban this defender of pedophilia and sexual assault. Seriously, what is he bringing to the boards which overcomes his conduct in discussions regarding sexual crimes? Ban him. The SDMB has banned others for far, far less. ---
**Author:** ![blob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blob/32/489_2.png) [@blob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blob)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/158 "2018-09-29T09:25:47Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Ok, O agree, but I hope we can draw a line between stuff like victim blaming & rape apology and fun but maybe too “boys club” like “Who is hotter Betty or Wilma?”. We need to moderate and get rid of the first, but only tone down the second, imho. > > Us guys are a little clueless at times, but as long as we keep the nasty mean spirited crap out, we can work slowly on the joking around. Notwithstanding the constant, repeated accusations and abuse that fly out of the mouth of a certain poster, I am not happy with an echo chamber and I’m not going to chuck a huge wobbly every time some clueless bloke makes an inappropriate/sexist remark. However there’s a time and a place. A serious discussion about a topical issue is not the place to pipe up about some actress you fancy. A thread about movie stars is/might be. etc. It’s not that hard for those who aren’t completely clueless. And if someone (of any gender) makes a particularly clueless remark and is pulled up on it by others, don’t start abusing and attacking left, right and centre. Stick to the point of the discussion. Either disagree and move on, or rethink. Attributing motives and imaginary scenarios to “explain” why somebody is pulling you up and then spewing abuse based on your own delusions is unhelpful (and infuriating). ---
**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/159 "2018-09-29T17:38:42Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If we have a voice here, I _strongly_ urge that you ban this defender of pedophilia and sexual assault. Seriously, what is he bringing to the boards which overcomes his conduct in discussions regarding sexual crimes? Diversity of opinion. He’s right; this place is an echo chamber. I think murdering babies is even worse than rape and pedophilia, and, by pro-life definitions, most of the people here defend murdering babies. Even so, if I were a pro-lifer, I wouldn’t put you (us) in the same category as someone who beat a toddler to death, because you thoughtfully and honestly don’t regard abortion as murder. Back in the '60s, returning Vietnam vets were reviled as murderers. Now we’re all “support our troops.” Should we ban posters who’ve been in the military, or thank them for their service? I don’t know what I think of **StarvingArtist** ’s defense of pedophilia, because I never saw it, but I have followed the rape threads. I don’t think he regards what Kavenaugh allegedly did as real attempted rape, or attempted “rape” rape, or something. He’s been a hell of a lot politer than the virtuous liberals who’ve called him names, and I think we need to recognize that people can have different opinions on moral issues without being monsters. If you refuse to talk to anyone with a different moral opinion, you’ll have to lock yourself alone in your room, hating yourself for your past evil thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899/160 "2018-09-29T17:58:50Z")
> [@coffeecat](#): > > Diversity of opinion. He’s right; this place is an echo chamber. > > I think murdering babies is even worse than rape and pedophilia, and, by pro-life definitions, most of the people here defend murdering babies. Even so, if I were a pro-lifer, I wouldn’t put you (us) in the same category as someone who beat a toddler to death, because you thoughtfully and honestly don’t regard abortion as murder. > > Back in the '60s, returning Vietnam vets were reviled as murderers. Now we’re all “support our troops.” Should we ban posters who’ve been in the military, or thank them for their service? > > I don’t know what I think of **StarvingArtist** ’s defense of pedophilia, because I never saw it, but I have followed the rape threads. I don’t think he regards what Kavenaugh allegedly did as real attempted rape, or attempted “rape” rape, or something. He’s been a hell of a lot politer than the virtuous liberals who’ve called him names, and I think we need to recognize that people can have different opinions on moral issues without being monsters. If you refuse to talk to anyone with a different moral opinion, you’ll have to lock yourself alone in your room, hating yourself for your past evil thoughts. Counterpoint: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21195056&highlight=bra�nwashed#post21195056](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21195056&highlight=bra%EDnwashed#post21195056) You don’t have to be arrogant at all. You merely recognize that you’re in the midst of a bunch of people who’ve been brainwashed by man-hating feminist dogma while eagerly swallowing victim pills for, in most cases, all their lives. You’re a pro-lifer. I disagree with you. But I think we could probably have a decent discussion about it. Do you: [ul] [li]Incessantly draw your pro-life views into every even tangentially-related topic?[/li][li]Constantly minimize the pain of those around you?[/li][li]Insist that anyone who disagrees with you is **literally brainwashed**?[/li][li]Turn every thread you enter into an episode of the “Coffeecat pro-life shitshow”?[/li][/ul] I don’t recall that happening. And that’s a _good_ thing. That’s what makes **Starving Artist** so infuriating. This place is a bit of an echo chamber. We keep the worst of the worst out. And y’know, just to take one prominent example, while we lost an example of what right-wing thought actually looks like with **Clothahump** ’s untimely departure, I don’t think it was necessarily a bad tradeoff. And is it really our fault if the rules we set within our community makes it too hard for republicans to stick around, merely because we do things like forbid rape jokes? Well, shit, if that’s not a core tenet of republican thought, we’re not necessarily excluding republican views. And if it _is_… Well, in that case, maybe we _shouldn’t_ have republicans around. We don’t have too many racists or facists either, last I checked - should they be included to expand our echo chamber? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-on-the-sdmb-sept-2018-edition/821899.md?page=9)