# Mispocha: How many Sins were committed here? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 9, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mispocha-how-many-sins-were-committed-here/700821 "2014-10-09T02:52:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mispocha-how-many-sins-were-committed-here/700821/21 "2014-10-09T15:09:10Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Ummmm… > > [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork) says bacon is a type of pork, “_Ham, smoked pork, gammon, bacon and sausage are examples of preserved pork._” There’s an old joke about a priest and a rabbi who are good friends and they meet for coffee every week. One day, the priest says, My friend, we’ve known each other for over 40 years. I have a burning question to ask you although I know it’s not exactly polite. The rabbi replies, Feh, what else are friends for; what do you want to know. The priest leans in and asks, Have you ever, when you were younger, tried pork? The rabbi is silent for a moment and then says, Yes, yes when I was younger I did once try pork. Now tell me, my friend, have you ever been with a woman. The priest is taken aback but since he did start this conversation eventually replies, yes, yes when I was younger and weaker in faith, I was with a woman. The rabbi leans back and with a twinkle in his eye, says, – well you’ve probably figured it out by now. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mispocha-how-many-sins-were-committed-here/700821/22 "2014-10-09T15:22:06Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Breaking your mother’s heart. > [@Flywheel](#): > > Better than pork, isn’t it? Depends on the mother. YMMV ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mispocha-how-many-sins-were-committed-here/700821/23 "2014-10-09T17:57:28Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Breaking your mother’s heart. Oy! So on the second post she wins the thread! :smack: > [@running\_coach](#): > > Isn’t that pretty much 24/7? 😃 Pretty much. In the OP, I didn’t mention that I wasn’t a Doctor, Lawyer, or College Professor, I wasn’t married to a nice Jewish girl, and I didn’t have 2 children. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mispocha-how-many-sins-were-committed-here/700821/24 "2014-10-09T19:03:25Z")
The fat and sodium in that bacon cheeseburger will shorten your life, so the sin of suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mispocha-how-many-sins-were-committed-here/700821/25 "2014-10-09T19:14:28Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > The fat and sodium in that bacon cheeseburger will shorten your life, so the sin of suicide. The shortened lifespan means you probably won’t get things like Alzheimer’s so you won’t commit the sin of being a burden to your children. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mispocha-how-many-sins-were-committed-here/700821/26 "2014-10-09T20:46:30Z")
I’m with Green Bean here. Not every failure to observe the law is a sin. That’s all I see these things as, transgressions. Oddly enough I do observe the Passover. I’ve eaten a ham and cheese sandwich on Matzoh. I also fasted on Yom Kippur. Why? I cannot tell you. Somehow it pleases my to do so, even though I am thoroughgoing atheist. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mispocha-how-many-sins-were-committed-here/700821/27 "2014-10-10T03:31:53Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > You’ll need to define what you mean by “sin” here. The Jewish concept of “sin” is different than the Christian concept of sin. And no, I’m not being pedantic. It is a material distinction. > > Lets assume that by “sin” you mean something more akin to “transgression.” > > Remember that there is no one central Jewish authority, and not all Jews believe that they are obligated to do the same group of things. An ultra-orthodox Jew might believe that turning on a light switch on the sabbath is a transgression. A reform secular Jew wouldn’t see it as such. > > So, is your question “how many transgressions are here from an ultra-orthodox perspective” or “how many transgressions would this be according to your own tradition and practice?” > > If it’s the former, I’ll leave that to more knowledgeable parties than I. Most of whom are probably sitting in their sukkahs right about now. > > If it is the latter, I’d say “none,” because I’m not shomer shabbos, I don’t follow the Passover customs regarding leavened bread, etc. The only transgression would be a non-religious one, because I try to eat healthier meals than bacon cheeseburgers from Wendys.\* > > - I get my cheeseburgers from Wendy’s without the bacon. 😛 But house of Shammai dissents. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mispocha-how-many-sins-were-committed-here/700821.md?page=1)