Yeah, I have a friend I grew up with who says it that way. We were always a bit amused and bemused by it, as nobody we knew said it like that, and he grew up in the same neighborhood as the rest of us. Even he didn’t know where he picked it up from (nor realized he was doing it.) His folks don’t talk like that, either.
On the other hand, I somehow picked up pronunciations like “tyoosday” or “chews-day,” even though I didn’t grow up in a dialect where the pronunciation had that kind of softening of the “t.” Even today, I’ll sometimes slip up and say “chewsday” and I have no idea where I got that from. That appears to be the only word I soften the “t” like that. I have a feeling I may have as a kid I may have softened other “tu” combinations, but that’s the only one that still occasionally slips in.
Probably an annoyance to those not born or lived a good number of years in Hawaii.
Pidgin English is a common “second language” that almost everyone born here or lived for a while picks up unintentionally. So I’ll sometimes slip if I’m speaking in a rushed tone and say things like: “One, two, TREE” or “Ova dea”. Locals usually won’t blink and eye, but will sometimes laugh if they catch it.
LOL, pulykamell have you ever lived in or visited Hawaii for an extended period? Maybe friends from Hawaii? Chewsday is how we say it in pidgin and there’s also Thirstday!
Your descriptions are basically correct but I’m not clear on what errant pronunciation or description you’re complaining about here.
Incidentally, I think the description of sashimi is somewhat understated. I love sushi and when I was at the sushi bar in a very good Japanese restaurant recently, one of the omakase offerings (basically a kind of prix fixe tasting menu of many courses) included both sashimi and sushi. I was a little hesitant because I prefer nigiri sushi and pictured sashimi as being basically nigiri without the rice. Not at all! At least, not in a great restaurant. The sashimi part of the meal was a series of absolutely delightful separate courses of all kinds of beautifully arranged elaborate dishes of all kinds, raw, grilled, whatever, and included fish, shellfish, and meats, all spectacularly presented with a wealth of accompanying exotic ingredients. It was absolutely heavenly, and then there were a great many rounds of different sushi. I was sure glad I had picked that particular omakase.
Your description is exactly what my gripe about ‘sashimi is raw fish’ is. I wish you were on a food channel and described what you had!
Saying ‘sashimi is raw fish’ to me is akin to someone saying “Oh, so you had spaghetti?” when you tell them you had a great meal of pasta at an Italian restaurant.
Nope. Visited for the first time in my late 20s. I grew up learning Polish first, and there are a lot of softened sounds in that languages (there are two different types of “sh,” “ch,” and “zh”-type sounds), so maybe somehow it comes from that, but I’m not sure how. I also wonder if some cartoon or TV show influenced my pronunciation, as I think most of my initial English exposure was through that, as my folks spoke Polish in the house and, until kindergarten, I didn’t really have any English-only speaking friends. I was wondering if it maybe be Wimpy from Popeye, but the examples I find have him saying “too-sday,” although there is one where he says “tyoos-day” and it’s not far from “tyoos-day” to “chewsday.” I’ll have to ask my parents, as I have no clue how I ended up learning English, but I must have had some knowledge of it before kindergarten.
One of my constant pet peeves is the confusion between “wandering” and “wondering.” WAHN-dering is moving around aimlessly. WUN-dering is being curious about something. I’ve heard professional singers miss this.
People who think that *gyros *is a plural word. Much like *kudos *and many other Greek words, the S does not imply a plural. It is just a natural way that they end nouns. “I’d like one gyros sandwich, please,” is the correct formation.
Another one that drives me nuts is they’ll pronounce Tuna ( fish ) like “chee-yoona”. Or New as “nee-yoo”. Don’t know where it comes from. My WAG would be that it’s “media english”.
Ah, yeah, that one sometimes sticks out to me. That said, “yee-row” or “ghi-row” without the “s” I’ve grown accustomed to, so much so that I’ll even use it, knowing better. It’s the “jeye-row” pronunciation (as in gyroscope) that most grates.
How are you supposed to pronounce “gyros”? I thought it was “YEE-ros,” but on Diane Kochilas’ Greek cooking show (PBS), she says it “JHY*-ros,” and she lives in Greece.
*JHY rhymes with SHY, and with a soft “J” as in Jesus.
