# Miss & Miss Teen USA have both resigned **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** reality-or-game-show\ **Created:** [May 14, 2024, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545 "2024-05-14T11:14:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/41 "2024-05-15T20:00:52Z")
Anyone remember a very funny beauty pageant movie satire from 1975 called **Smile**? Directed by Michael Ritchie, with Barbara Feldon, Bruce Dern, Annette O’Toole (Mrs. Michael McKean!), Joan Prather, Michael Kidd, Colleen Camp, Melanie Griffith. > **[Smile (1975) ⭐ 7.1 | Comedy](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073722/)** > > 1h 53m | PG ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/42 "2024-05-15T21:19:33Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Well, I guess that’s your problem, isn’t it?   I apologize if the movie is not insulting. I may have jumped to the wrong idea from the poster. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/43 "2024-05-15T23:49:41Z")
Another vote for _Smile_ (the 1875 movie, not the unrelated newer movie of that name). The scenes with Dern in the shrink’s office with his kid are killer. As are a lot of other scenes. Best movie about a beauty pageant ever. _Drop Dead Gorgeous_ is a close second. (Mainly due to Allison Janney). _Smile_ is definitely more “realistic” as to what goes on at a pageant. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/44 "2024-05-15T23:56:11Z")
Apology accepted. I’m surprised no one has asked me how the hell anyone can “play the lamps.” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/45 "2024-05-16T00:04:50Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > It seems there may be multiple resignation statements. One being a letter (sent to the pageant company and media?) and [this Instagram post](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6oIKIYLDGG/) for the public. The Instagram post has the hidden message. Can someone who released two statements that have been so widely distributed really be considered silenced? I suppose the one to the pageant company may have been reviewed by them before being passed along to the media, but is there anything preventing her from saying anything she wants on Instagram? It’s possible that the pageant company is witholding some payment from her, or has some contract provision that would punish her for saying disparaging things, but I’d want to know more about how she’s being silenced. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/46 "2024-05-16T00:33:39Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Anyone remember a very funny beauty pageant movie satire from 1975 called **Smile**? Directed by Michael Ritchie, with Barbara Feldon, Bruce Dern, Annette O’Toole (Mrs. Michael McKean!), Joan Prather, Michael Kidd, Colleen Camp, Melanie Griffith. Yes. Very good movie. I still remember the vaseline on teeth tip. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/47 "2024-05-16T02:22:06Z")
I remember watching movie critic Rex Reed on _ **The Tonight Show** _ around 1970. He had just been a judge at _ **Playboy** _’s “Bunny of the Year” pageant and was telling Johnny Carson what it was like. He was impressed when one of the Bunnies was asked to name her favorite entertainer and she immediately replied “Sir Laurence Olivier.” Then she added “I have _all_ of his records!” 🤣 I forget who it was, but another celebrity was once telling Johnny about the Miss America pageant, at which he or she had also been a judge: “A bigger bunch of virgins you’ve never seen!” ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/48 "2024-05-16T02:47:13Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > A little later than 2005, but you might appreciate 2009’s _Whip It_, about a girl who is forced to participate in beauty pageants by her mother, a former low-level beauty pageant queen. But the girl (played by Ellen Page, as he was known then) doesn’t want to be in beauty pageants; she wants to play roller derby. She is not so good at beauty pageants, but she is surprisingly good at roller derby. Mother, of course, hates it; and feels that her daughter should be more into beauty pageants than roller derby. Reminds me of this sketch: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/4eV6vRLDj_s/maxresdefault.jpg "SCTV The Brooke Shields Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eV6vRLDj_s) _Step on a crack, break your mother’s back!_ ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/49 "2024-05-16T02:50:14Z")
Can I call you Tip Toenail? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/50 "2024-05-16T05:19:09Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > What we have here, I believe, is something that WAS an integral part of America becoming a thing of the past and, as so often is the case, the denial that is resulting in its slow and painful death. Complicated, I suspect, by the fact that pageants nowadays are including a lot more non-white women both as contestants and in leadership roles. This inspires a sadly non-negligible subset of pageant-watchers to expect a “decline and decay” model for pageant trends. Add that to the ways in which beauty pageants actually are declining as a cultural force, mostly because more young women these days have more important things to worry about, and you get a media tendency to focus on pageant dysfunction. > [@ftg](#): > > Another vote for _Smile_ (the 1875 movie (snerk) They had to be very careful filming it, in case any of the contestants inadvertently showed any ankle. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/51 "2024-05-16T06:22:42Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > [@duality72](#): > > > > It seems there may be multiple resignation statements. One being a letter (sent to the pageant company and media?) and [this Instagram post](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6oIKIYLDGG/) for the public. The Instagram post has the hidden message. ⁢ > > Can someone who released two statements that have been so widely distributed really be considered silenced? I suppose the one to the pageant company may have been reviewed by them before being passed along to the media, but is there anything preventing her from saying anything she wants on Instagram? > > It’s possible that the pageant company is witholding some payment from her, or has some contract provision that would punish her for saying disparaging things, but I’d want to know more about how she’s being silenced. ⁢ My presumption was that she felt silences while she was still Miss USA, and now is able to speak out because she quit. But I would love to see what it is she can now say. Alternatively, she signed an NDA that she wishes she could violate in order to describe what happened. Either way, I didn’t assume the post itself was her being silenced. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545/52 "2024-05-16T09:09:06Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Either way, I didn’t assume the post itself was her being silenced. I assumed that it was. If she was free to speak her mind after resigning, there wouldn’t be any need to conceal a message the way she did. The fact that she encoded “I am silenced” in an Instagram post suggests to me that she has more to say beyond the post itself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-miss-teen-usa-have-both-resigned/1001545.md?page=2)