# Miss Piggy Zings Fox News **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 30, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216 "2012-01-30T18:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/1 "2012-01-30T18:38:55Z")
Well, a commentator on Fox News earlier in the year accused the Muppets of being Communist stooges promoting a socialist ideology. SO naturally Kermit and Miss Piggy were asked about this at a press confectioner for the UK premier. https://www.youtube.com/embed/Y8YhED4IgQA?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque > [@](#): > > Kermit said, “No, you know, it’s a funny thing. They were concerned about us having some prejudice against oil companies. And I can tell you that’s categorically not true. And besides, if we had a problem with oil companies, why would we have spent the entire film driving around in a gas-guzzling Rolls Royce?” > > Miss Piggy added, “It’s almost as laughable as accusing Fox News as, you know, being news.” Will FOX news take it in humor as they should or will they get the panties in a bunch over it? ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/2 "2012-01-30T19:01:07Z")
As Miss Piggy points out at the end of that clip, if FOX gets into a mudslinging contest with a bunch of puppets, they’ve already lost. It’ll be on _The Daily Show_, but it won’t be on FOX at all. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/3 "2012-01-30T19:24:37Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > a press confectioner Mmm, press confectionery. ---
**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/4 "2012-01-30T22:10:49Z")
I really needed a laugh today, and that did it! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/5 "2012-01-30T23:59:19Z")
> [@](#): > > As Miss Piggy points out at the end of that clip, if FOX gets into a mudslinging contest with a bunch of puppets, they’ve already lost. The old quip about mud-wrestling with a pig also comes to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/6 "2012-01-31T01:46:51Z")
“_Well, a commentator on Fox News earlier in the year accused the Muppets of being Communist stooges promoting a socialist ideology_” Do you have a cite for this? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/7 "2012-01-31T01:51:22Z")
[Here](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/fox-news-the-muppets-are-communist_n_1129173.html?1323184080) you go. ---
**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/8 "2012-01-31T01:54:30Z")
> [@Mangosteen](#): > > “_Well, a commentator on Fox News earlier in the year accused the Muppets of being Communist stooges promoting a socialist ideology_” > > Do you have a cite for this? [http://videogum.com/426211/fox-news-finally-takes-on-the-communist-muppets/top-stories/](http://videogum.com/426211/fox-news-finally-takes-on-the-communist-muppets/top-stories/) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/9 "2012-01-31T02:22:45Z")
That sounded like Frank Oz (for Ms. Piggy)-wasn’t he going to retire? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/10 "2012-01-31T02:59:49Z")
He needed to do this. Really, truly needed to do it. Fox pwnage is not something you leave to the apprentices. They are apprentices, and do not deserve any fun. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/11 "2012-01-31T13:21:12Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > That sounded like Frank Oz (for Ms. Piggy)-wasn’t he going to retire? It probably was the same guy who voiced her in the recent Muppet movie. I was shocked when I found out it _wasn’t_ Frank Oz. Kermit’s easy to spot, but that probably has something to do with the fact you know it can’t be Jim Henson. ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/12 "2012-02-01T01:04:10Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > [Here](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/fox-news-the-muppets-are-communist_n_1129173.html?1323184080) you go. I asked for a cite for the quote where Fox used the phrase, “communist stooges promoting a socialist ideology”. Do you have one? ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/13 "2012-02-01T01:11:39Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Kermit’s easy to spot, but that probably has something to do with the fact you know it can’t be Jim Henson. You know, at this point, Steve Whitmire’s been doing Kermit almost as long as Jim Henson did. (22 years vs. 30 years) I don’t even notice his voice as “new” anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/14 "2012-02-01T01:15:14Z")
> [@Mangosteen](#): > > I asked for a cite for the quote where Fox used the phrase, “communist stooges promoting a socialist ideology”. > > Do you have one? You do realize in the OP I did not quote anybody at FOX. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/15 "2012-02-01T01:18:39Z")
Has it been that long? I can still remember sitting in a parking lot, mourning Henson’s death, and looking at sunspots that, because of clouds, were visible without blinding me. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/16 "2012-02-01T01:19:32Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > the apprentices Eric Jacobson has been playing Piggy, and several of Oz’s other characters, for over a decade (he started with Bert in 1997, Grover in 1998, started Piggy, Fozzie, Animal, and Sam the Eagle in 2001). He even did Yoda (in Muppet form) once. And he’s been with the Muppet studios since 1994. He’s well past the apprenticeship stage, and is not just the heir apparent for Oz’s characters, he’s already taken the throne as his successor. ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/17 "2012-02-01T01:54:39Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > You do realize in the OP I did not quote anybody at FOX. I see. In other words, you just made something up. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/18 "2012-02-01T02:13:22Z")
> [@Mangosteen](#): > > I see. In other words, you just made something up. It’s called humorous paraphrasing. In other words, a joke. Notice the lack of quotation marks? That’s a clue. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/19 "2012-02-01T02:15:44Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Eric Jacobson has been playing Piggy, and several of Oz’s other characters, for over a decade… Like I said, an apprentice. Or maybe a journeyman by now. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-piggy-zings-fox-news/611216/20 "2012-02-01T03:06:16Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > It’s called humorous paraphrasing. In other words, a joke. Notice the lack of quotation marks? That’s a clue. > > :rolleyes: I want to know how one goes from what the person on FOX _actually_ said to “communist stooges promoting a socialist ideology”