Got away with being a jerk. Proceed with your next set of non sequiturs about how it’s worse to be a jerk in New York than it is in some other state.
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Just because you panic in a given situation, that doesn’t mean the actions of the other person was illegal.
In order for some act to be illegal, there has to be a law prohibiting that act. If there’s no law forbidding the act, the act is legal.
FYI - Since open-carry is an essential part of hunting, you may wish to peruse a state’s hunting regulations and game laws for any applicable laws. Or not.
that’s simply not true.
Annnnnnnd we’re back to implying that this guy was hunting in a Walmart. Your arguments never disappoint.
For example, IF a state had only passed a law that said it was legal to carry firearms in that state, and that state had created no laws restricting where firearms could be carried, or had failed to provide an exemption for those who wish not to allow firearms in their homes, or businesses, or government buildings, or saloons, or places of worship, etc.,
state law would then allow firearms to be carried anywhere within the state.
In this made-up example, and assuming you’re open to the public, how would you prevent someone from carrying a firearm into your business? Call the police? The state says they can carry anywhere in the state, and that includes your business.
Wrong. If you’re looking for gun laws, it just seems like a good idea to search all of the sections of the law that probably contain gun laws. Or not.
So if I want to know whether it is legal to dump a 55 gallon drum full of fish heads in a Walmart, I should look at the Department of Fish and Wildlife’s regulations?
I guess it depends on whether the fish heads are carrying shotguns? 
But seriously, you could ask the Police Chief. I assume he would know what laws are in effect in his jurisdiction.
You simply must be aware that the police chief in this case has weighed in on the law and how he thinks the law is stupid? (My words, not his.) His statements have been represented many times in this thread.
Are you sure that was the police chief who said that, and not a pod person? Did any of the articles mention if the police chief had been tested for being a pod person? I don’t see how anyone can make any sort of judgement about this case while the lazy-ass media continues to ignore the vital pod person question.
When did the Chief weigh in on your 55 gal fish head dump?
What do you mean by 55 gallon fish head dump? That could mean anything. Your post left out the who, what, when, where and why. Are you even sure you’re in the right thread?
You are really stretching with this one. A business owner has the right to set the standards for people entering the establishment. No shirt, no shoes, no service. Ties must be worn. That sort of thing. Even in states with explicit carry laws, such as Ohio, a business may specify that weapons may not be brought it, regardless of general carry laws.
If you believe that your claim that a business may not refuse entry to a person bearing a weapon is true, it would be interesting to see an actual example from real life.
One of the main reasons for having ‘disturbing the peace’ type laws is so that people who do things that are technically legal, but cause disturbances (especially things likely to cause disturbances), can be prevented from doing so. The statute I quoted makes sure to specify ‘in any way whatsoever’ so as to make certain it is applicable to anyone who causes such a disturbance in any way, regardless of whether the action causing the disturbance would be legal or not if no disturbance were being caused.
Furthermore, the definition of ‘disturbance’ isn’t specifically nailed down to anything, which (I believe) means it’s up to law enforcement on the scene to make the call as to whether it qualifies, and then for a court to determine whether or not it did, or did not, rise to the level of a ‘disturbance’.
Over the years I have told a few people I do not care to do business with them because they were assholes. If they were to ignore me and come into my business I’d call the cops and report them for tresspasing.
As a permit holder in Minnesota I can legally open carry, but I don’t simply because it freaks too many people. And businesses as private property can ban guns on their premises.
This thread seems to be walking the pit tightrope with some surprising contributors.
While doorhinge is quite over the top, there is more here than meets the eye. Either the police chief is trying to make a political point about open carry OR he didn’t see anything on the video that disturbed him from a legal standpoint.
We armature cops find enough reason to arrest the guy if what was reported is true with regards to how the witnesses were quoted.
Assuming the details of the story are close enough to the truth, shotgun guy was an idiot, and either a jackass (for intentionally causing the disturbance) or an even bigger idiot than I’m giving him credit for.
But the police chief is the real villain of the story. The description of the events gives plenty to prosecute on (disturbing the peace, brandishing, etc). The police chief chose instead to make wild statements to the media that open carry laws make the nutjob’s actions “state sanctioned”, and make it impossible for the police to stop a nutjob from acting nutty. He’s throwing law enforcement and the peace of mind of his citizens under the bus in an effort to manufacture a big anti-gun media story.
Open carry laws are not carte blanche to do whatever you want with a firearm in public without concern for others’ safety and peace of mind. This politically motivated police chief is doing his best to create the impression that they do, when ironically he is the one that is showing disregard for public safety and peace of mind.
What are “armature cops”?
You may find enough reason to arrest the guy, but no less an authority than the Police Chief said he had no reason to arrest the guy. Decisions, decisions. Who should I believe? You, or the Police Chief?
This is the internet, so it’s expected that people will object to the action of the Police Chief, but who do you believe is more familiar with the laws within the Chief’s jurisdiction?
Good for you.
Does state law allow these people to open-carry their assholes into your open-to-the-public business? 