# Miss Spaulding

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 29, 2015, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782 "2015-04-29T05:23:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/61 "2015-04-30T15:52:11Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Which one? 🆒

The first one.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/62 "2015-04-30T16:10:43Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The first one.

Jeez, way to give **Monty** the answer. :mad:

🆒

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/63 "2015-04-30T17:22:21Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> We real tame. We  
> quite lame. We
> 
> hate hype. We  
> can’t type. We
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> no thumbs. We  
> 'net slums. We
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> lack pics. We  
> are dicks.

Yes, but we strike straight, and that matters.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/64 "2015-04-30T17:41:05Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Jeez, way to give **Monty** the answer. :mad:
> 
> 🆒

Oops. :o

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/65 "2015-04-30T22:03:35Z")

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Is **Miss Spaulding** a troll or just stupid? This post sure seems like trolling and the poster has just signed up.

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**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/66 "2015-05-01T00:08:55Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> The SDMB. Lacking dick pics since 1973.

I suppose I can be grateful for that.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/67 "2015-05-01T00:28:41Z")

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> [@lel](#):
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> I suppose I can be grateful for that.

Not so fast. There’s some cat porn over in GQ right now.  
[Help determine the sex of my kittens (with pictures)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=755716)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/68 "2015-05-01T09:00:57Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Ah, but didn’t you know? She’s fine with having it challenged, but she’s just too damn _ **kind** _ to return fire. She backed away from the vaccine discussion out of kindness, not because she was called on her bullshit and revealed to be making up “facts”.

I hear she also let Lefty get away, which was also out of kindness (I suppose).

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/69 "2015-05-01T10:17:05Z")

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Recent research (link to coverage here: [Algorithm 'identifies future trolls from just five posts' | Internet | The Guardian](http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/17/algorithm-identifies-future-trolls-from-just-five-posts)) suggests that message board trolls (apparently defined as “people who will go on to be banned because of their behavior”) can be identified with a high degree of accuracy within 5 posts using an algorithm that analyzes their writing.

The characteristics that make trolls stand out include fewer words indicative of positive emotion, lower scores on a standard readability index, and this (bolding mine):

[QUOTE=article about identifying trolls]  
They discovered that users who would end up being banned from the site often wrote noticeably different to the main bulk of commenters. “Users can stay on-topic or veer off-topic; prior work has also shown that users tend to adopt linguistic conventions or jargon in a community … and that they also unconsciously mimic the choices of function-word classes they are communicating with.” Sure enough, **they found that “text similarity” of banned users was significantly lower than that of non-banned users.**  
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Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/70 "2015-05-01T11:25:12Z")

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I wonder how much of that low “text simularity” is due to the trolls being banned before they adapt to local customs and how much is due to deliberate disregard of the standards.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/71 "2015-05-01T11:47:54Z")

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Zero and one hundred percent, respectively.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/72 "2015-05-01T12:33:57Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Throw in a few more 'lol’s and we’ll really learn to respect you…

We also need to see some "hahaha"s. No confused altie post is complete without a complement of "hahaha"s (or "HAHAHA"s).

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/73 "2015-05-01T23:39:44Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> Hey, at least is wasn’t pink comic sans!

This post has been pink comic sans’d by the… oh you get the point.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/74 "2015-05-02T00:40:50Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> I wonder how much of that low “text simularity” is due to the trolls being banned before they adapt to local customs and how much is due to deliberate disregard of the standards.

If the research is valid at all, they used the first five posts of all users for comparison, and the first five of trolls were different from the first five of non-trolls.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/75 "2015-05-02T00:54:04Z")

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You mean they needed a con-troll group?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/76 "2015-05-02T01:56:16Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Zero and one hundred percent, respectively.

Yip, because they are analyzing the first five posts of everyone, including those who aren’t trolls.

That said, that high accuracy is 80%, and only rises to 82% if you use 10 posts. It’s maybe good enough to implement some sort of automated pre-moderation for their posts, but not good enough to actually weed them out.

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/77 "2015-05-02T06:14:25Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I hear she also let Lefty get away, which was also out of kindness (I suppose).

Coulda had him any day.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/78 "2015-05-02T15:43:14Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> You mean they needed a con-troll group?

I either love you or want to fling dirty laundry at you, I can’t seem to decide which.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/79 "2015-05-02T16:32:40Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> We were a little low on them for a while, but we’ve gained a few lately.  
> Oooo, please tell us more about your [deep scientific knowledge of vaccines](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18324875#post18324875).

Ah crap. I was actually going to defend the green font thing as much ado about nothing, as she seems to be literate and able to converse intelligently, which is always a welcome change from the usual drive-by types we get here. I was also going to suggest that you all not gang up on her. But anti-vax nuttery is some of the worst stupid out there today, so she’s on her own. I have no patience with willful ignorance.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-spaulding/718782/80 "2015-05-02T19:24:10Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> I either love you or want to fling dirty laundry at you, I can’t seem to decide which.

I find the latter is very often my partner’s expression of the former.

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