# Miss the point of a book, movie or play

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 28, 2017, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370 "2017-01-28T05:42:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RobotDevilDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@RobotDevilDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobotDevilDog)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/21 "2017-01-29T01:39:23Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Naked Lunch. I can think of at least two things wrong with that title. 😃

That’s the one I thought of sharing, but you beat me to it! But please, give credit to one Nelson Muntz for this brilliant quote. 😛

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/22 "2017-01-29T01:45:59Z")

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Lacking both consistent meter and any semblance of rhyme, Alan Ginsberg’s Howl fails as poetry.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/23 "2017-01-29T01:46:39Z")

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The novella made it clear that the protagonist had become a cockroach. As this is obviously impossible, the author must have either been delusional, or lost the thread of what he was writing. Such things are “possible” when the genre of the writing belongs to “science fiction,” but neither the tenor not style or writing suggested this genre…

The title of the show is “The Big Bang Theory,” but none of the scientists on the show actually work on researching the Big Bang theory. Stephen Hawking makes guest appearances, but they are mere cameos, and do not justify the name.

There are no children in _Children of a Lesser god,_ save for a few teenagers, who don’t really qualify, and are subjugated to minor roles at any rate.

I am still awaiting the appearance of an actual wizard in _The Wizard of Oz_. There are three witches, but so far, no wizard.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/24 "2017-01-29T02:29:27Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Lacking both consistent meter and any semblance of rhyme, Alan Ginsberg’s Howl fails as poetry.

“Shantih shantih shanti”? This is the worst limerick I’ve ever read!

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/25 "2017-01-30T17:11:08Z")

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Someone needs to tell George Orwell that dogs and sheep and pigs can’t freaking TALK!

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**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/26 "2017-01-30T17:43:19Z")

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So many 1984 questions and confusions in this thread…they would be best solved by a rewrite of the novel and burning all the prior editions.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/27 "2017-01-30T19:41:15Z")

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The three sisters in the woods gave that Macbeth dude perfectly good advice, which he totally misinterpreted and got himself killed.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/28 "2017-01-30T19:44:40Z")

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_Cyrano de Bergerac_ should be used as a commercial for rhinoplasty.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/29 "2017-01-30T20:03:28Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> So many 1984 questions and confusions in this thread…they would be best solved by a rewrite of the novel and burning all the prior editions.

There WERE no previous editions.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/30 "2017-01-30T21:21:07Z")

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_Amimal Farm_ is set on a experimental farm where the livestock are given the power of speech. But, My God, listen to them and they’ve somehow learned Communism!!

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/31 "2017-01-30T23:17:50Z")

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None of the questions in _Blowin’ in the Wind_ make any damn sense. This Dylan guy is a hack writer who’ll never amount to anything. Full-time consideration of another endeavor might be in order.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/32 "2017-01-31T00:05:17Z")

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“There was a great rise in _Citizen Kane_, and there was a modest fall.” [The moral? “Get yourself a different woman.”](http://www.indiewire.com/2016/11/donald-trump-misinterprets-citizen-kane-interview-1201747615/)

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/33 "2017-01-31T01:09:52Z")

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I was forewarned that _The Sixth Sense_ had a twist. And oh what a twist it was! Turns out Bruce Willis was just another one of the disturbed boy’s hallucinations.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/34 "2017-01-31T02:33:40Z")

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Pretty Woman is the age-old story of how a street whore can do OK for a while at least if she meets a wealthy gay man as long as he keeps paying for expensive shopping trips and no sex.

Titanic is the tale of a wealthy, spoiled girl that realizes her dreams by helping to kill the lover that saved her life multiple times, ditches her family for a new identity in the face of tragedy and ultimately screws over the people that gave her one last chance to vividly recall the joy of it all.

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a classic story of a boy that comes from a multi-generational white trash family. Charlie has a gambling addiction of his own but manages to win enough to score a meeting with the Big Boss, a slave-owner and brutal candy tycoon. Charlie manages to wrestle control away from the tyrant through brilliant psychological ploys and gets control of his criminal empire.

Oh shit, I just realized that none of that is incorrect so I think I just went full circle.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/35 "2017-01-31T02:55:50Z")

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Lord of the Rings - Don’t do anything Wizards tell you to do.

1984 - Put your head down and get to work.

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/36 "2017-01-31T03:43:28Z")

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_Hamlet_ was hackneyed. Too many cliches.

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**Author:** ![Dioptre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@Dioptre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dioptre)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/37 "2017-01-31T04:56:50Z")

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_Superman_ is okay I guess. But the main character is unrealistically good at everything.

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**Author:** ![Annoying\_Buzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Annoying\_Buzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoying_Buzz)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/38 "2017-01-31T05:39:31Z")

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_Fight Club_ was in desperate need of some basic editing. I couldn’t count the number of times the author lost track of who was speaking, or even how many people were in the room!

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**Author:** ![Annoying\_Buzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Annoying\_Buzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoying_Buzz)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/39 "2017-01-31T05:40:49Z")

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> [@Dioptre](#):
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> _Superman_ is okay I guess. But the main character is unrealistically good at everything.

_Man and Superman_ needed more scenes with Lois Lane to balance things out.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-the-point-of-a-book-movie-or-play/778370/40 "2017-01-31T07:10:06Z")

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Just saw _Florence Foster Jenkins._ Meryl Streep was miscast; they should have used an actress who could actually sing.

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