# Miss USA gets in trouble for acting like an AMERICAN?!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 20, 2006, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883 "2006-12-20T04:12:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/21 "2006-12-20T20:45:04Z")
More than alcohol has been associated with the pageant winner’s exploits. Rumor has it that she parties with [cocaine](http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272610546.shtml), too. Hence the rehab. She’s lucky that she’s pretty and blonde. And that’s all I’m going to say on that. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/22 "2006-12-20T20:53:12Z")
[QUOTE=you with the face] More than alcohol has been associated with the pageant winner’s exploits. Rumor has it that she parties with [cocaine](http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272610546.shtml), too. Hence the rehab. She’s lucky that she’s pretty and blonde. And that’s all I’m going to say on that. [/QUOTE] Thanks **Face**. I wasn’t aware of that. It certainly changes things a bit. Can I take back my last post now? ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/23 "2006-12-20T21:29:44Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] Do women know about shrinkage? [/QUOTE] If they didn’t, they do now. I’m sure many of them have seen that Seinfeld episode. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/24 "2006-12-21T14:09:33Z")
Stunt casting coup: The Donald and Miss USA now starring on Broadway in “Chicago.” The similarities are eerie. Life imitating art. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/25 "2006-12-21T14:27:21Z")
[QUOTE=Leaffan] Thanks **Face**. I wasn’t aware of that. It certainly changes things a bit. Can I take back my last post now? [/QUOTE] No, you may not. She may have had cocaine, but the only reason she’s in rehab is because it allows her to blame the drugs and not herself, and allows her to keep her crown (funny bit from the chat shows: “And according to reports Donald Trump will be able to keep whatever the hell that thing on his head is”). If we sent to rehab every 21-year-old female who snorts coke, gets drunk and makes out with a chick, we’d need the entire state of Minnesota to hold them all. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/26 "2006-12-21T15:12:10Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] If we sent to rehab every 21-year-old female who snorts coke, gets drunk and makes out with a chick, we’d need the entire state of Minnesota to hold them all. [/QUOTE] [garrison keillor reads news, immediately suffers conflicting feelings of eagerness and guilt; which makes him happy] ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/27 "2006-12-21T15:14:12Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] According to one report I read, Conner was making out a club with Miss Teen USA Katie Blair. I don’t know if the story is true but I’m willing to review any video evidence. [/QUOTE] Well, if the _Daily News_ is a reliable source Wikipedia [sez:](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Conner#Controversy): > [@](#): > > The December 16, 2006 edition of the New York Daily News reported Tara had tested positive for cocaine, had lustily kissed Miss Teen USA Katie Blair in public, and had sneaked men into their Trump Place apartment. One New York City nightlife veteran said “She really is a small-town girl. She just went wild when she came to the city. Tara just couldn’t handle herself. They were sneaking those nightclub guys in and out of the apartment.”[20] 🙂 God **bless** America!!! Oh, to be a New Yorker! ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/28 "2006-12-21T15:18:24Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] If we sent to rehab every 21-year-old female who snorts coke, gets drunk and makes out with a chick, we’d need the entire state of Minnesota to hold them all. [/QUOTE] I agree that just because she’s in rehab doesn’t mean she is doing so because she is a coke addict or anything. But just because there may be a whole bunch of cocaine-sniffing, pole-dancing, booze-guzzling party girls out there doesn’t mean she is being unfairly persecuted. The thread title claims that she has gotten in trouble for acting no worse than most Americans, which is bollocks I say. Most Americans don’t party like that. Forget about the crown. Home girl is lucky that she isn’t doing 5 to 10 in the state pen. The tabloid press has been been easy on her. Since the cocaine thing isn’t common knowledge (as evident by the fact that I’m the first one in this thread to mention it), I’d say they’ve been remarkably easy on her. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/29 "2006-12-21T15:29:13Z")
[QUOTE=you with the face] …But just because there may be a whole bunch of cocaine-sniffing, pole-dancing, booze-guzzling party girls out there … [/QUOTE] I think we need a cite on this one. Or pictures at least. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/30 "2006-12-21T15:58:54Z")
Well, originally, I figured,“You know, what the hell. She partied, screwed around, and that’s all fine and dandy. No harm, no foul”. Upon further review, faced with the blubbering she did in front of the cameras to be the “best Miss USA ever” and other crap…I say let her go. She had a pretty peachy gig going and she blew it. What started the push to the other direction started with the news of going to “rehab”. If your average Joe (or in this case, Jane) did a similar thing, they wouldn’t have the luxury of having rehab to get away from their fate. Although, sez I, she might actually have a real drug problem, and if it’s legitimate, then that’s fine. Get cleaned up and go do it all again. However, that first nudge coupled with the amount and propensity of the groveling she was doing at the news conference…just makes me think that no lesson was learned and that she simply blew a pretty sweet deal… …even if she did have to suck some Don wang to get it. I kid. About that last part, at least. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/31 "2006-12-21T16:32:19Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] Do women know about shrinkage? [/QUOTE] Only by proxy. It never seems to be an issue when I’m around. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/32 "2006-12-21T18:32:08Z")
[QUOTE=you with the face] I agree that just because she’s in rehab doesn’t mean she is doing so because she is a coke addict or anything. But just because there may be a whole bunch of cocaine-sniffing, pole-dancing, booze-guzzling party girls out there doesn’t mean she is being unfairly persecuted. [/QUOTE] Actually, it I was trying to assert that she was unfairly NOT being persecuted. Not that she should go to jail (I don’t think people do 5 to 10 for having coke in their systems, and I know that you can’t get 5 to 10 for underage drinking), but this “Forgive them, they’re in rehab” thing is really starting to bug me. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/33 "2006-12-21T18:42:03Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] While I generally think beauty pageants are an abomination, if she is expected (as a contestant and winner) to adhere to certain rules of decorum—however Pollyanna-ish they might seem relative to a “normal” young American woman’s behavior—and she breaks them in a blatant and public way, then what should one predict the reaction to be? [/QUOTE] seconded, word for word ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/34 "2006-12-21T19:04:25Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] If we sent to rehab every 21-year-old female who snorts coke, gets drunk and makes out with a chick, we’d need the entire state of Minnesota to hold them all. [/QUOTE] Can I be a security guard? Pleez? Pretty Pleez? With sugar on top? ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/35 "2006-12-21T19:30:08Z")
Wasn’t this whol;e affair orchestrated to get free airtime for mr. Trump? Does anybody take the “Miss Universe” competition seriously, anyway? I think the pageant was originally set up to promote ocean city (in the 1920’s) as a tourist destination. I think Trump has gotten MORE than his money’s worth over this! ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/36 "2006-12-21T21:05:39Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] If they didn’t, they do now. I’m sure many of them have seen that Seinfeld episode. [/QUOTE] Hell yeah, baby. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/37 "2006-12-21T22:20:42Z")
[QUOTE=ralph124c] I think the pageant was originally set up to promote ocean city (in the 1920’s) as a tourist destination. [/QUOTE] I think you mean the [Miss America](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_America) pageant, started in Atlantic City, NJ. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/38 "2006-12-21T23:03:16Z")
[QUOTE=brianjedi] Shouldn’t that be “inchage”? Or “millimeterage”? [/QUOTE] In my case, “mileage.” ---
**Author:** ![cmosdes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cmosdes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmosdes)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2006, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883/39 "2006-12-22T00:34:42Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Lord Ashtar > When I heard the two of them were living in the same apartment with Miss Universe (which Trump also owns), I had to go…um, be alone for a little while, if you know what I mean. Is there footage? Is there footage? [\] _pant pant pant_ Seriously, though. There’s a cameraphone picture somewhere, right? Right? [/QUOTE] You want footage of Lord Ashtar being alone for a while? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/miss-usa-gets-in-trouble-for-acting-like-an-american/384883.md?page=1)