# Missile Subs, tubes and tactics...AFTER they've launched?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missile-subs-tubes-and-tactics-after-theyve-launched/138295>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 23, 2002, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missile-subs-tubes-and-tactics-after-theyve-launched/138295 "2002-11-23T02:38:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Tony\_Barber\_s\_Underwear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/58f4c7/32.png) [@Tony\_Barber\_s\_Underwear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Barber_s_Underwear)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missile-subs-tubes-and-tactics-after-theyve-launched/138295/21 "2002-11-25T06:59:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DreadCthulhu \*  
> \*\*I’m sure they could find a friendly port that didn’t get nuked. How many nukes are targeted at the southern hemisphere? New Zealand might make a nice stop. \*\*

Sorry, New Zealand is a [Nuclear Free Zone](http://canterbury.cyberplace.org.nz/peace/nukefree.html)

- Bubba.

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**Author:** ![scm1001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@scm1001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scm1001)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missile-subs-tubes-and-tactics-after-theyve-launched/138295/22 "2002-11-25T12:48:15Z")

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foxyboxer - but they wouldn’t have any nukes left - they have just fired them

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**Author:** ![Shortie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Shortie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shortie)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missile-subs-tubes-and-tactics-after-theyve-launched/138295/23 "2002-11-25T17:56:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by scm1001 \*  
> \*\*foxyboxer - but they wouldn’t have any nukes left - they have just fired them \*\*

They’ve still got nuclear reactors, which counts. OTOH, just who would care about that as Armageddon was going on?

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**Author:** ![XPav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b77776/32.png) [@XPav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XPav)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missile-subs-tubes-and-tactics-after-theyve-launched/138295/24 "2002-11-25T22:56:29Z")

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There’s a book… “Arc Light” in which a colossal misunderstanding ends up with a limited nuclear exchange between the US and Russia.

Most people are fixated on the thought of all dying in a horrible full scale nuclear armageddon, and few consider the idea that we’d just have a minor armageddon only killing a few million people.

I think we’re all in agreement that its a Good Thing that we’ve had neither.

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**Author:** ![flyboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4da419/32.png) [@flyboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flyboy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missile-subs-tubes-and-tactics-after-theyve-launched/138295/25 "2002-11-25T23:20:08Z")

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Good point, **XPav.** Count military planners in with those few.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missile-subs-tubes-and-tactics-after-theyve-launched/138295/26 "2002-11-26T01:23:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Shade \*  
> \*\*Comrade, is this a good idea?  
> Da, da, is Tranquilis idea. \*\*

_snerk_  
😃

Yeah, I could find uses for a few mis-directed ex-Soviet boomers…  
😃

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**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missile-subs-tubes-and-tactics-after-theyve-launched/138295/27 "2002-11-26T01:28:10Z")

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Well after you’ve launched your load, in addition to it being Miller time, you’ve just broadcast very loudly “Here I am! Come and get me!”, so mission number 1 is to not get your ass blown up by an enemy ship/missile.

Of course now the first four Trident boomers are being converted to carry up to 154 Tomahawks each. That’s some seriously good firepower.

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