# Missing child...for more than a month now

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 18, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947 "2008-07-18T12:25:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/41 "2008-07-20T19:19:49Z")

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[QUOTE=lobotomyboy63]  
_The family also said the smell of decay inside the car, which some thought could be a clue, was from a piece of rotting pizza in the trunk._  
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I’m not suggesting it’s _sinister_, but… WTF?

Under what circumstances does a piece of pizza end up in your fecking _trunk?_ 😕

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/42 "2008-07-20T22:20:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Mudd]  
I’m not suggesting it’s _sinister_, but… WTF?

Under what circumstances does a piece of pizza end up in your fecking _trunk?_ 😕  
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When you want to hide the scent of decay.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/43 "2008-07-20T23:35:01Z")

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Frankly, I would try patchouli- it covers up a multitude of sins in the hippie community…

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/44 "2008-07-22T02:07:48Z")

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There is now a web site —\> [http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/](http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/)

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/45 "2008-07-22T17:06:22Z")

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Mom is up for a bond hearing this afternoon, and her attorney suggests they need to be looking for Caylee in North Carolina and New York City. He’s also implying Casey has told him more about where her daughter is than she’s told the police.

Orange County investigators are saying they have more info to justify keeping her in jail.

I feel sorry for the grandmother, Cynthia. She seems almost pathological in her belief that Caylee is safe and sound. She’s also not been afraid to put Nancy Grace and Greta van Sustren (sp?) in their places when she’s been on air with them.

[Updated link](http://wdbo.com/news/08_0721_caylee_grandmother_supports_case.html)

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> “There’s a shred of truth in every lie that she has told them.”

Hooboy.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/46 "2008-07-22T20:21:25Z")

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Casey is still in jail, and the judge has upped her bond. Apparently an ex-fiancee has come forward with information that Casey is (gasp!) lying.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/47 "2008-07-22T21:31:41Z")

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[Update.](http://wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/03779_Shocking_details_revealed_about_Caylee_s_case_160151.html)

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/48 "2008-07-22T22:11:45Z")

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Your link isn’t working, **ivylass** - can you just tell us the news?

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/49 "2008-07-22T22:18:45Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
Your link isn’t working, **ivylass** - can you just tell us the news?  
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It isn’t looking good. Quoting:

\*Lead Detective Yuri Melich revealed that the smell of human decomposition has been discovered in the trunk of the car driven by Casey around the time of Caylee’s disappearance.

Detective Melich also stated that hair similar to Caylee’s was found in the trunk, along with dirt and an unidentified stain that still need to be investigated.

Also, Deputy Sheriff Jason Forgey, who works with a “cadaver dog,” testified that the dog alerted to the odor he’s been trained to identify: human decomposition, including traces of blood and bodily fluids. The dog alerted to these scents in the trunk of the car and again in the Anthony family’s back yard. A second dog also alerted to the same places, according to testimony.\*

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/50 "2008-07-22T23:57:17Z")

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Another update:

_Casey Anthony, 22, is charged only with child neglect and lying to investigators. Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland set her bond at $500,000 Tuesday, saying the law did not allow him to hold her without bail._

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\*Defense attorney Jose Baez requested bond around $10,000. He said Anthony’s family can’t pay a high bond and she has the right to freedom while facing lesser charges.

“This is not a capital case, and if it were they certainly would file it, if they had evidence to,” Baez said. “There is circumstantial evidence of a possible homicide, I will give them that. But circumstantial evidence has not made them confident enough to charge her with any specific homicide or kidnapping, or any capital offense.”\*

Wow, IANAL but that sounds hokey, per the reasons her attorney stated. If she’s being held on minor charges, shouldn’t the bail fit that?

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**Author:** ![LilGypsyGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilGypsyGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilGypsyGirl)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/51 "2008-07-23T00:21:18Z")

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Sorry, I haven’t read through the whole thread, so I apologize if I am merely repeating something someone had already stated.

Anyone notice that the day she was arrested and was walked into the courtroom, the small smirk on her face? And then the sudden flash of “blank?” It’s like she’s in her own world. Manic episodes, perhaps? I’m no psychiatrist, but something sure seemed off to me in that one minute of footage.

Either way, I really don’t think they will find that baby girl alive, if at all. And just to throw another .02 in, I really feel in my gut that Gramma knows more than she’s letting on. And yes, I think Casey killed her. Gramma knows about it. Grampa is in the dark, the poor man.

The both of them should rot in hell. Mom and daughter both. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/52 "2008-07-23T00:52:32Z")

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Bail sounds reasonable if she’s a flight risk, or if the prosecution has indicated that more serious charges may be pending.

IANAL.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/53 "2008-07-23T01:09:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Mudd]  
I’m not suggesting it’s _sinister_, but… WTF?

Under what circumstances does a piece of pizza end up in your fecking _trunk?_ 😕  
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Because you put the left over pizza in there? Box popped open and you didn’t notice a piece slid out?

I’d be much more suspicious of a parent whose car didn’t smell nasty with some left over kid stuff …  
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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/54 "2008-07-23T17:10:27Z")

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Sorry, the links were from a talk radio station and may have been updated rather quickly, rendering my links obsolete.

The mother is claiming the smell comes from a box of pizza that was left in the trunk for 12 days. Now, I’m no expert, but I think the cadaver dogs are trained to tell the difference between “rotting pizza” and “rotting human.”

That said, although the cadaver dogs alerted in areas of the grandparents’ backyard, investigators didn’t find anything, so take that for what it’s worth.

I feel so bad for the Cynthia. Yes, she’s coming off a bit strident, but she probably hasn’t slept a wink in more than a week and is having to come to terms with the fact that 1) her darling grandbaby may be dead and 2) her own daughter may have killed her. Is it any wonder she’s being Mama Bear as hard as she can?

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/55 "2008-07-23T18:25:49Z")

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Update:

_The lawyer for Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, disclosed late Tuesday that the family had received a credible tip that a small child matching Caylee’s description was seen boarding a flight to Atlanta at Orlando International Airport._  
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_The caller claimed to have seen Caylee board the flight with an older woman. When she talked to the woman and child, the youngster apparently said her name was Caylee “Antony,” pronouncing it without the “h” the way Cindy Anthony says her granddaughter does. When asked her age, the little girl said she was 3; Caylee is almost 3 years old._

> **[FOX 35 Orlando](https://www.fox35orlando.com)**
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> Central Florida area news, weather, radar, sports, traffic, live newscasts, and more. From WOFL-TV FOX 35 News in Orlando, your weather authority.

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/56 "2008-07-23T23:16:21Z")

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Timeline, for anybody interested:

> **[FOX 35 Orlando](https://www.fox35orlando.com)**
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> Central Florida area news, weather, radar, sports, traffic, live newscasts, and more. From WOFL-TV FOX 35 News in Orlando, your weather authority.

From the latest:

\*Cindy Anthony said that the woman who gave her the tip was meeting with Orange County Sheriff’s detectives and a sketch artist to try and come up with a composite of the older woman that the little girl was seen with. \*

> **[FOX 35 Orlando](https://www.fox35orlando.com)**
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> Central Florida area news, weather, radar, sports, traffic, live newscasts, and more. From WOFL-TV FOX 35 News in Orlando, your weather authority.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/57 "2008-07-25T20:44:22Z")

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[The 911 tapes have been released.](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,391001,00.html)

There are three calls. In the first, Cyrnthia tries to have her daughter arrested for grand theft.

In the second, she’s connected to the sheriff’s dept, which is the correct jurisdiction. If I understand this one correctly, Cynthina had not had contact with her daughter for a month and has just now found her, recovered her car, and gotten statements from her bank.

In the third, Cynthia realizes that in the time she was out of contact with her daughter, Caylee was also missing.

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**Author:** ![Mumio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@Mumio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mumio)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/58 "2008-07-25T23:39:17Z")

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“There’s something wrong,” Cindy Anthony told the dispatcher. “I found my daughter’s car today, **and it smells like there’s been a dead body in the damn car.** ”  
There you have it. I’ll be really surprised if they find the little girl alive.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/59 "2008-07-26T02:54:12Z")

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I have a daughter of about the same age; it can be hard to keep up with her without loosing my marbles. As it turns out I, and millions of women manage to get through without ‘losing’ their kid, or their sanity. I have very little simpathy for that sad excuse for a mother, even if it turns out that the kid is happy and healthy somewhere.

Barring clear evidence of debilitating mental illness, I hope she spends many years contemplating the walls of her cell. Even if her daughter is found alive.

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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-child-for-more-than-a-month-now/456947/60 "2008-07-26T06:47:24Z")

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I just want to say, I have _never_ seen pizza putrefy. It doesn’t rot, it petrifies. Almost overnight.

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