# missing children

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 31, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669 "2019-12-31T15:06:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/21 "2020-01-08T19:32:32Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Microchips (in the pet sense) aren’t trackers. They’re just a way of identification.

True. The only way they could be used as trackers, even in the loosest sense, would be to install RFID scanners pretty much everywhere possible. But I don’t think we want to go down that road.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/22 "2020-01-08T19:58:14Z")

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It is a good thing that we got rid of those carboard milk cartons in the US that we used to have when I was younger. They had pictures and stories about missing children on the back. So you could read all about it while have morning cereal.

Once we go rid of those cartons, the tragedy of the missing disappeared. It was almost like the cartons were causing the problem. Except that most of the missing were parental custody disputes.

So in a sense you could say that changing from cardboard to plastic, in this instance, saved lives.

> **[Missing-children milk carton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_carton_kids)**
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> Beginning in the early 1980s, advertisements on milk cartons in the United States were used to publicize cases of missing children. The printing of such ads continued until the late 1990s when other programs became more popular for serving the same purpose. Contemporary popular media portrayed the practice in fiction, often in a satirical manner.
> During the late 1970s and 1980s in the United States, missing child cases garnered a great deal of news media attention. Chief among these were the dis...

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/23 "2020-01-15T04:21:20Z")

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Sadly, they have [found](https://www.toledoblade.com/local/police-fire/2020/01/14/harley-dilly-port-clinton-missing-recovered-ohio-attorney-general/stories/20200114102) the body of Harley Dilly, the missing 14-year-old Ohio boy, in the chimney of a vacant house across the street from his home.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/24 "2020-01-15T06:29:38Z")

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I had to walk uphill both to and from school, but never over the roof of the house across the street.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/25 "2020-01-15T13:24:51Z")

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What a horrible fucking way to die. I couldn’t sleep last night thinking of it, and of his family.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/26 "2020-01-15T14:06:25Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> What a horrible fucking way to die. I couldn’t sleep last night thinking of it, and of his family.

[This thread](https://www.datalounge.com/thread/25268021-missing-harley-dilly) has some interesting details.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/27 "2020-01-15T14:46:59Z")

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I was about to post the news myself. Everyone, not only in Ohio fell in love with this poor boy. From what I have heard, it was a quick death thankfully. Even so, its horribly sad.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/28 "2020-01-15T15:04:35Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> From what I have heard, it was a quick death thankfully.

[Six or seven hours is quick](https://www.fox19.com/2020/01/15/harley-dilly-likely-died-day-he-went-missing-within-hours-after-getting-stuck-chimney-source-says/)?

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/29 "2020-01-15T15:28:03Z")

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Compared to however long it would’ve taken for him to starve to death stuck there

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/30 "2020-01-15T15:47:56Z")

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What I have been reading is the abductors are going after more minority children. Black, hispanic, and native american.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/31 "2020-01-16T04:46:37Z")

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The story of that kid is one of those things you wish you never read. He was just out doing stupid kid stuff and got killed, it’s so sad.

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**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/32 "2020-01-16T05:18:10Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Six or seven hours is quick](https://www.fox19.com/2020/01/15/harley-dilly-likely-died-day-he-went-missing-within-hours-after-getting-stuck-chimney-source-says/)?

Curious how they made that estimate and how they know for sure. Compression asphyxia is the cause of death in a lot of crowd crush tragedies like Hillsborough–but those people died within minutes. I really, really hope that was an upper estimate and not true.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/33 "2020-01-16T08:34:28Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> What I have been reading is the abductors are going after more minority children. Black, hispanic, and native american.

Have you actually read this thread?

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-children/845669/34 "2020-01-16T18:25:00Z")

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> [@chizzuk](#):
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> Curious how they made that estimate and how they know for sure. Compression asphyxia is the cause of death in a lot of crowd crush tragedies like Hillsborough–but those people died within minutes. I really, really hope that was an upper estimate and not true.

I really hope that also. I don’t want to think he suffered long, and was hoping they would announce he died within minutes; even if it wasn’t accurate (and how would they know down to the minute?) because everyone would feel better that he didn’t suffer long. It really drew the community together, not just his city, but Ohio and other places.

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