# Missing college student, Mollie Tibbetts. Fitbit users, how detailed is the saved data? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 25, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588 "2018-07-25T22:50:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/21 "2018-08-21T21:48:43Z")
Fox News has this story over the Manafort and Cohen news. I wonder if this will actually have an effect on the election. My first instinct was to say “no”, but maybe it will energize Trump’s base. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/22 "2018-08-21T21:52:16Z")
Arrest warrant with details of the incident. It sounds like he attacked and she died quickly. Pdf [http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/pib/Releases/2018/08-21-2018\_DCI\_ArrestWarrantComplaintAffidavit.pdf](http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/pib/Releases/2018/08-21-2018_DCI_ArrestWarrantComplaintAffidavit.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/23 "2018-08-21T21:54:17Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > … He initially ran along side her and tried to talk. She tried to flee and he chased her down. > > I’m a bit surprised because Mollie was a long distance runner. Ran on her high school track team. I would have thought she’d easily out pace and evade a non-athlete. I suspect that a lot / most men would have relatively little trouble catching and overpowering a lot / most women if they were so inclined. The biological differences between the sexes are significant. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/24 "2018-08-21T22:00:10Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Fox News has this story over the Manafort and Cohen news. I wonder if this will actually have an effect on the election. My first instinct was to say “no”, but maybe it will energize Trump’s base. Election Day is what, 11 weeks away? It’ll be interesting to see what effect this has, if any. If President Trump were politically savvy he’d push for some funding legislation for the “Mollie Tibbetts Memorial Wall” along the southern border between now and November. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/25 "2018-08-21T23:53:07Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Arrest warrant with details of the incident. It sounds like he attacked and she died quickly. > > Pdf > [http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/pib/Releases/2018/08-21-2018\_DCI\_ArrestWarrantComplaintAffidavit.pdf](http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/pib/Releases/2018/08-21-2018_DCI_ArrestWarrantComplaintAffidavit.pdf) How did you conclude the “died quickly” part? The arrest warrant says he claimed to have “blocked” his “memory”. I don’t think we have any evidence yet one way or the other to know if it was a quick death or a torturously slow one. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/26 "2018-08-22T01:50:18Z")
You’re correct, there’s no details yet about Mollie’s death. I assumed if Rivera went into a blackout rage that a beating would be quick & lethal. But, that’s just my speculation. Details won’t come out until the trial Over on Reddit, some posters found Rivera’s Facebook page. The posters claim his gf is FB friends with Mollie. She may have known him through her. Brooklyn is a very small town. I don’t FB and can’t verify this information. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/27 "2018-08-22T01:58:49Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > You’re correct, there’s no details yet about Mollie’s death. I assumed if Rivera went into a blackout rage that a beating would be quick & lethal. But, that’s just my speculation. Details won’t come out until the trial > > Over on Reddit, some posters found Rivera’s Facebook page. The posters claim his gf is FB friends with Mollie. She may have known him through her. Brooklyn is a very small town. > > I don’t FB and can’t verify this information. I don’t have any evidence one way or the other, but I’ll be quite surprised if it turns out that a rape did not occur during his “blackout rage”. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/28 "2018-08-22T01:59:27Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Election Day is what, 11 weeks away? It’ll be interesting to see what effect this has, if any. If President Trump were politically savvy he’d push for some funding legislation for the “Mollie Tibbetts Memorial Wall” along the southern border between now and November. Governor Kim Reynolds is already on it. 25 people died in Des Moines last year alone, not one by an immigrant, yet there’s no outrage to deport white people from Iowa. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/29 "2018-08-22T02:01:41Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Governor Kim Reynolds is already on it. 25 people died in Des Moines last year alone, not one by an immigrant, yet there’s no outrage to deport white people from Iowa. Perhaps it’s got something to do with the fact that we can’t deport non-immigrants? ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/30 "2018-08-22T02:16:42Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’m a bit surprised because Mollie was a long distance runner. Ran on her high school track team. I would have thought she’d easily out pace and evade a non-athlete. Without making any comment on her abilities in particular; by definition, half of all runners run slower than the average. Also long distance runners tend towards good endurance, not sprint speed. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/31 "2018-08-22T02:16:58Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Perhaps it’s got something to do with the fact that we can’t deport non-immigrants? You don’t really know Trump, do you? ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/32 "2018-08-22T02:59:01Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Without making any comment on her abilities in particular; by definition, half of all runners run slower than the average. Also long distance runners tend towards good endurance, not sprint speed. It could have been that initially she simply considered the guy annoying rather than deadly. When she realized his deadly intentions it was too late. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/33 "2018-08-22T04:58:26Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > You don’t really know Trump, do you? God damn, he wants to deport everyone? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/34 "2018-08-22T05:04:27Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > God damn, he wants to deport everyone? Well, not _everyone_. I’m quite confident Donald Trump has no desire to deport me. ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/35 "2018-08-22T15:08:15Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > … > Over on Reddit, some posters found Rivera’s Facebook page. The posters claim his gf is FB friends with Mollie. She may have known him through her. Brooklyn is a very small town. > > I don’t FB and can’t verify this information. That’s not surprising. My daughter has hundreds of “friends” on Facebook and they have friends and they have friends. About 3 degrees deep of friends of friends of friends of my daughter was Mollie Tibbetts. We live in Iowa but it wouldn’t surprise me if most everyone in the country is somehow tied to everyone else by less than 10 degrees of separation. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/36 "2018-08-22T16:54:24Z")
This case could have easily gone unsolved. LE was at a dead end until they found the neighbor with security cameras. Mollie was dumped in a cornfield and imho her remains would have been found during the fall harvest. But I’m doubtful they would have solved this case without the security camera footage. > **[Mollie Tibbetts case mystified police until a security camera offered a key clue](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/22/us/mollie-tibbetts-cristhian-rivera-search/index.html)** > > Investigators spoke to hundreds of people in the search for clues about Mollie Tibbetts' disappearance, but weeks after she vanished it was security camera footage that finally gave them a first glimpse of the man accused of killing her. LE got what they need to solve this horrific crime. > [@](#): > > The footage showed her running through an area east of Brooklyn and a car moving close to her. The black Chevy Malibu drove back and forth numerous times before it just started following her, according to an affidavit. > [@](#): > > “He certainly wasn’t known to the local police department,” Rahn said Wednesday. “So we, through our interviews and conducting a number of different canvas interviews throughout the community, we weren’t aware of him until we were able to locate the video. So it’s not like he was on anybody’s radar throughout the investigation.” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/37 "2018-08-22T18:05:39Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Perhaps it’s got something to do with the fact that we can’t deport non-immigrants? Why not? More than one native American has been told to go back to where they came from and Trump’s definition of unconstitutional is “whatever interferes with what I wanna do.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588/38 "2018-08-22T23:35:43Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This case could have easily gone unsolved. LE was at a dead end until they found the neighbor with security cameras. > > Mollie was dumped in a cornfield and imho her remains would have been found during the fall harvest. But I’m doubtful they would have solved this case without the security camera footage. > > [Mollie Tibbetts case mystified police until a security camera offered a key clue - CNN](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/22/us/mollie-tibbetts-cristhian-rivera-search/index.html) > > LE got what they need to solve this horrific crime. It was certainly impressive police work. The most famous local case, in Minnesota, was Jacob Wetterling, who took 27 years to find. That case also required the abductor/murderer to lead the police to the body. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-college-student-mollie-tibbetts-fitbit-users-how-detailed-is-the-saved-data/818588.md?page=1)