# Missing smilies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [August 13, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517 "2006-08-13T03:35:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/21 "2006-08-13T13:09:53Z")

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> [@C K Dexter Haven](#):
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> I have said, since day one, if we ahve a Hasidic (hence stereotypical) Jewish smily, then we should also have a black-face smiley, and perhaps an Asian smiley with pig-tail and buck-teeth.

I thought Dex had a great idea here, and voted in Mod-mail for adding as many bad stereotype smilies as we could, but I was voted down! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/22 "2006-08-13T14:22:17Z")

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> [@if6was9](#):
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> Ya know… that winking smilie, and the rolleyes are REALLY offensive to me. I think people are talking about me behind my back. You should remove them too.  
> :rolleyes:

I AM talking about you behind your back. It’s just that right now I’m doing to your face.

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**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/23 "2006-08-13T14:56:48Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> How was the Happy Orthodox Jew smilie causing problems?

It’s nothing to do with being Jewish.

Personally I distrust smilies that smile all the time. I always think they are hiding their true emotions. This is simply unacceptable. I’m glad the smiling twit has been consigned to the dustbin of history.

In fact, we could use more grumpy smilies. My campaign will begin when I have the necessary resources in place to mount an effective challenge to the received wisdom that happy smilies such as ( 🙂 ) make people feel good.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/24 "2006-08-13T23:57:47Z")

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> [@C K Dexter Haven](#):
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> Well, I, among others, found it offensive – not in and of itself, but the fact that Jews were singled out for a smiley and no other group. That’s discrimination, in my book. I have said, since day one, if we ahve a Hasidic (hence stereotypical) Jewish smily, then we should also have a black-face smiley, and perhaps an Asian smiley with pig-tail and buck-teeth.

Well, this is certainly unfortunate reasoning. I’m certain no offense was ever meant regarding which smilies were chosen for this message board, not least because they’re smilies on a message board.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/25 "2006-08-14T00:49:13Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Well, this is certainly unfortunate reasoning. I’m certain no offense was ever meant regarding which smilies were chosen for this message board, not least because they’re smilies on a message board.

Whoosh.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/26 "2006-08-14T00:50:23Z")

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Is it too early to put in my vote for a Pukey Smilie?

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/27 "2006-08-14T01:03:54Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Is it too early to put in my vote for a Pukey Smilie?

And a pony for **elucidator**.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/28 "2006-08-14T01:44:36Z")

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Can any hint be given as to when the next upgrade is going to be?

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/29 "2006-08-14T02:10:51Z")

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I’m glad that those two smiles were cut. I didn’t think that the Jewish smile was offensive, but it didn’t really convey any emotion. It was just something that Jewish Dopers tacked onto their posts when someone asked them about Kosher laws or Sabbath restrictions. And as for Wally, the mods already explained that. He was more trouble than he was worth.

I’ll second the need for a barfy or pukey smile. Not anything gross, mind you, maybe just a green smile with puffed-out cheeks, to convey a feeling of nausea or revulsion. Its keyboard shortcut could be :x

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/30 "2006-08-14T02:41:21Z")

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> [@Revenant Threshold](#):
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> Can any hint be given as to when the next upgrade is going to be?

I could tell you, but then they’d have to kill me. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/31 "2006-08-14T02:45:53Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> I could tell you, but then they’d have to kill me. 🙂

Really? Ok, then.

So when is it? 😉

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/32 "2006-08-14T06:27:10Z")

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Personally, I would have preferred leaving the smilies active, but removing them from the clickable grid on the reply window (if that’s possible). That way, they’d still be intact in old threads, preserving the continuity, but it’d be much harder for anyone not familiar with their proper usage to accidentally stumble upon them. Perhaps after a transition period of a few months or a year, they could then be deleted, and the loss would go unnoticed.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/33 "2006-08-14T14:13:20Z")

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> [@Revenant Threshold](#):
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> Can any hint be given as to when the next upgrade is going to be?

We do not know. We’ll let you know when we do.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/34 "2006-08-14T22:32:49Z")

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A pukey smilie? Ha! I farty smilie in the general direction of your pukey smilie!

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/35 "2006-08-14T22:59:59Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Whoosh.

How so? I’m commenting on someone becoming so offended by a message board smilie that he felt compelled to petition for its removal.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/36 "2006-08-15T01:35:11Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> We do not know. We’ll let you know when we do.

Would it be impertinent to ask what it depends on? As in… what’s affecting the time? Is it a case of focusing on other more vital things before adding something new can be sorted, for example?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/37 "2006-08-15T01:52:32Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> How so? I’m commenting on someone becoming so offended by a message board smilie that he felt compelled to petition for its removal.

He wasn’t serious about being offended.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/38 "2006-08-15T02:05:10Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> He wasn’t serious about being offended.

**Derleth** is correct. **CKDexterHaven** is “so offended by a message board smilie that he felt compelled to petition for its removal.”

I’d refer **Derleth** to this comment:

> [@CKDexterHaven](#):
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> I have said, since day one, if we ahve a Hasidic (hence stereotypical) Jewish smily, then we should also have a black-face smiley, and perhaps an Asian smiley with pig-tail and buck-teeth.

I’d also ask **Derleth** his opinion on a white trash smiley, a injun smiley, or a WASP smiley.

I’d also ask whether he would consider that the appropriate uses of such smileys would be so vanishingly rare that they just would not be worth having or maintaining.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/39 "2006-08-15T02:12:36Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> Was there going to be some sort of announcement, or was it hoped we just wouldn’t notice?

I guess it was. You’d think they’d at least try to come up with some accurate gauge of user opinion first. But I guess The Admins Know Best, right?

Wally is used as an insult, and there’s some justification in removing it (though the difference in the administration’s treatment of Wally and Rolleyes has never been adequately explained.) But what the fuck problems was Happy Orthodox Jewish Man causing? He was fun. The presence of a Jewish smiley was so delightfully inexplicable and random - the entire point of him is that he wasn’t any use.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/40 "2006-08-15T02:24:16Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Wally is used as an insult, and there’s some justification in removing it (though the difference in the administration’s treatment of Wally and Rolleyes has never been adequately explained.)

Yes, it has. Rolleyes indicates skepticism; Wally is an insult.

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