# Missing smilies **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [August 13, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517 "2006-08-13T03:35:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/41 "2006-08-15T02:30:39Z")
Man, for a board that prides itself on it’s lack of smilies, these threads sure get a lot of attention… :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/42 "2006-08-15T02:35:31Z")
> [@Ruby](#): > > Man, for a board that prides itself on it’s lack of smilies, these threads sure get a lot of attention… :dubious: _shrug_ (where’s the stinking shrug smiley?) There’s a healthy and vociferous minority that would like smilies of all sorts. There is also a healthy and vociferous minority that just likes to bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/43 "2006-08-15T02:55:48Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Yes, it has. Rolleyes indicates skepticism; Wally is an insult. :dubious: You must be thinking of Dubious. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/44 "2006-08-15T03:08:14Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > :dubious: You must be thinking of Dubious. Is there some reason, unknown to me, that I can’t be thinking of rolleyes? Make a case for eliminating :rolleyes: , if you believe if should be eliminated. All I’ve seen you do so far is gripe about it’s existance. What makes you believe it is an insult? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/45 "2006-08-15T03:13:59Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Is there some reason, unknown to me, that I can’t be thinking of rolleyes? > > Make a case for eliminating :rolleyes: , if you believe if should be eliminated. All I’ve seen you do so far is gripe about it’s existance. What makes you believe it is an insult? Actually I have seen many posters take :rolleyes: as an insult and set off angry exchanges. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/46 "2006-08-15T03:14:52Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Is there some reason, unknown to me, that I can’t be thinking of rolleyes? You quite well could be. That would suggest that you probably make facial expressions different from everyone else’s. > [@](#): > > Make a case for eliminating :rolleyes: , if you believe if should be eliminated. All I’ve seen you do so far is gripe about it’s existance. What makes you believe it is an insult? I didn’t say we should get rid of Rolleyes. I said that the justification offered for getting rid of Wally is irrational in the light of the fact that we’re keeping Rolleyes. That point still remains, for those who make normal facial expressions. I’m not fond of Wally, and I quite like having Rolleyes around. That doesn’t mean the justification offered for this action makes any sense. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/47 "2006-08-15T03:17:18Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Is there some reason, unknown to me, that I can’t be thinking of rolleyes? > > Make a case for eliminating :rolleyes: , if you believe if should be eliminated. All I’ve seen you do so far is gripe about it’s existance. What makes you believe it is an insult? Rolleyes seems like an insult to me. It’s doesn’t just say “i’m skeptical of what you just said” it’s more like “Please! What nonsense you spout! Your words are so stupid that i’m not even going to respond to your point”. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/48 "2006-08-15T03:18:40Z")
It seems to me that rolleyes is attacking the ideas expressed by a poster, which is something we’ve always been able to do, in all fora (provided we stay within some minimal standards of good taste). An idea, however, cannot be a putz, so the wally smilie is a clear ad hominem (even if a somewhat mild one), and ads homines are not allowed in most of the fora here. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/49 "2006-08-15T03:33:26Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It seems to me that rolleyes is attacking the ideas expressed by a poster, which is something we’ve always been able to do, in all fora (provided we stay within some minimal standards of good taste). An idea, however, cannot be a putz, so the wally smilie is a clear ad hominem (even if a somewhat mild one), and ads homines are not allowed in most of the fora here. Excellent explanation **Chronos** , thank you for the clarification. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/50 "2006-08-15T03:50:08Z")
I think Rolleyes is an insult. It’s usually used to mean something like “Damn, you’re stupid! Do you know that?” Basically, it’s a very arrogant and snobbish sentiment, that really doesn’t belong outside Great Debates or the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/51 "2006-08-15T08:52:29Z")
Why not get an O RLY? Owl smiley? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/52 "2006-08-15T10:58:20Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > **Derleth** is correct. **CKDexterHaven** is “so offended by a message board smilie that he felt compelled to petition for its removal.” I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/53 "2006-08-15T17:13:51Z")
My vote is to can all of the smilies. I agree that rolleyes frequently is used in an insulting way. I absolutely vote against a vomiting smiley. I think it also will be used offensively. I’m not sure what’s so hard about stating one’s thoughts and feelings rather than sprinkling about winkies and rolleyeses and dubiouses. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/54 "2006-08-15T17:18:04Z")
> [@Shoshana](#): > > My vote is to can all of the smilies. I agree that rolleyes frequently is used in an insulting way. I absolutely vote against a vomiting smiley. I think it also will be used offensively. I’m not sure what’s so hard about stating one’s thoughts and feelings rather than sprinkling about winkies and rolleyeses and dubiouses. :eek: :eek: 😃 I agree! 😛😛 I like to be able to use ol’ Doobie once in a while, and the smiley one is nice too - sometimes it’s just hard to make it clear that you’re making a joke. I do think anyone who uses more than, say, three in any single post ought to be dealt with. Smileys are useful as an occasional addition to make your tone clear; people who use them in every sentence should really find a different crowd to hang out in. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/55 "2006-08-15T17:47:46Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > Smileys are useful as an occasional addition to make your tone clear; people who use them in every sentence should really find a different crowd to hang out in. And that’s how they’re used hereabouts, for the most part. Seriously – when’s the last time someone used more than a couple, other than as a joke of some sort? ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/56 "2006-08-15T17:52:46Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > And that’s how they’re used hereabouts, for the most part. > > Seriously – when’s the last time someone used more than a couple, other than as a joke of some sort? Um, I’m not gonna name names . . . Do you read MPSIMS? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/57 "2006-08-15T19:00:02Z")
I’m sorry to see Wally vanish. He was useful. Suggestion: go visit [http://www.ataforums.com/](http://www.ataforums.com/). They have a smiley for Beating A Dead Horse that is outstanding, and I strongly suggest that we get it for SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/58 "2006-08-15T19:40:04Z")
Glad to see the Wally emoticon go. I agree (shock, :eek: gasp! 😃 ) with \*\*TubaDiva \*\* and **tomndebb** about it. The other one won’t be missed. I’d like to see a “yech” emoticon. A clapping or cheering or bowing one would be nice too. Hard to do without animation, though, and I don’t think they want that here. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/59 "2006-08-15T19:44:23Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > **Derleth** is correct. **CKDexterHaven** is “so offended by a message board smilie that he felt compelled to petition for its removal.” Well, obviously. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have compared it to other smilies that attempt to hit various hot-buttons. > [@](#): > > I’d also ask **Derleth** his opinion on a white trash smiley, a injun smiley, or a WASP smiley. Given that it’s utterly absurd for a message board smilie to be offensive, bring 'em on. > [@](#): > > I’d also ask whether he would consider that the appropriate uses of such smileys would be so vanishingly rare that they just would not be worth having or maintaining. Nonsense. The HOJM smilie was used to good effect during its time here. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517/60 "2006-08-15T19:50:27Z")
We need the HOJM smilie so [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7265548&postcount=42) makes sense again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-smilies/368517.md?page=4)