# Missing Soccer Team Found Alive in Cave

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 2, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173 "2018-07-02T17:03:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/201 "2018-07-08T12:45:40Z")

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Now reporting 4 boys have reached the walking out portion are expected to come out soon!

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/202 "2018-07-08T12:58:42Z")

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Yay! Excellent news.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/203 "2018-07-08T13:13:05Z")

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Now six boys are out!

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/204 "2018-07-08T13:16:41Z")

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I’m feeling more hopeful than I have in quite awhile.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/205 "2018-07-08T13:19:29Z")

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I’m getting more worried about the rescuers now. The temptation to push too hard, stay on the job. It’s so easy to overdo and we’ve seen the result already. Fingers still crossed!

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/206 "2018-07-08T13:28:46Z")

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CNN reporting that rescue operations have stopped for the night.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/207 "2018-07-08T13:31:32Z")

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In the end they opted to evacuate the six weaker boys first, tomorrow the other six should come out and I’m sure they assistant coach will go last.  
I hope they wrote their names on the cave wall before leaving. 🙂

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/208 "2018-07-08T13:45:00Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Y’know, somewhere in this world there is a betting agency and callous fucks wagering on the survival of these kids? ☹
> 
> I hate this world. …

They’ve also assembled a diverse team of volunteers from around the world, some of whom are putting their own lives in grave danger to rescue these boys. The world is not all bad.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/209 "2018-07-08T14:16:22Z")

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I seriously thought I’d be waking up to read about the tragedy. What an unexpected turn of events! Now it looks like they’ll all make it, including the rescuers.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/210 "2018-07-08T14:17:53Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Wishing them all the best but I believe 60 people drowned on a ferry sinking in Thailand during the week. The soccer team obviously grabs more public attention for whatever reason.

It might have something to do with the fact that it’s very hard to rescue people who are already dead. Just a thought.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/211 "2018-07-08T14:32:01Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/212 "2018-07-08T14:52:12Z")

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CNN has only four boys rescued, who were immediately rushed to hospital including at least one ferried on a helicopter. Their source is a press conference given by the governor of Chiang Rai province.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/213 "2018-07-08T14:54:18Z")

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Yeah, the earlier “six boys” account seems to have been a misunderstanding. Four boys out for sure.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/214 "2018-07-08T15:10:56Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Y’know, somewhere in this world there is a betting agency and callous fucks wagering on the survival of these kids? ☹
> 
> I hate this world. Hoping like fuck these young fellas get out safe and sound.
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> Fingers and toes and everything else crossed. 🙂

But in many many more places there are people holding their breath, praying for each child and their rescuers, and rejoicing for every person who makes it out alive. This is a story of decent people risking their lives to help others and a true reason not to hate the world.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/215 "2018-07-08T15:19:43Z")

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Conditions in the cave must have improved in the past couple days.

Pumping out water must have helped more than most realized.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/216 "2018-07-08T15:23:57Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> They walked out on their own feet, for the past days I’ve been rather bewildered by the way people discussed their prospects. These are young, very fit boys, after spending 9 days with no food in the dark and no way of knowing if help was coming you just have to look at the video when they were found to see they have a remarkable presence of mind.  
> It was reported they were briefed, trained and very eager to get going.  
> I don’t know why everyone was expecting these kids to be incapable of getting through, I never doubted it. Thai people are, in my experience, very resilient and resourceful in times of crisis.

This.

They’re athletic youths who are smaller than the divers rescuing them. It should be easier for them to get through narrow passages. They’re motivated to train and it doesn’t involve deep diving. They have the best divers in the world coordinating the effort.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/217 "2018-07-08T15:26:46Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> But in many many more places there are people holding their breath, praying for each child and their rescuers, and rejoicing for every person who makes it out alive. This is a story of decent people risking their lives to help others and a true reason not to hate the world.

more importantly, not to hate the world based on imagined behavior.

Somewhere there are people wanting the best for these kids. I love this world.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/218 "2018-07-08T16:03:49Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> more importantly, not to hate the world based on imagined behavior.
> 
> Somewhere there are people wanting the best for these kids. I love this world.

Not _somewhere_; everywhere.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/219 "2018-07-08T16:08:58Z")

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> [@Ale](#):
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> They walked out on their own feet, for the past days I’ve been rather bewildered by the way people discussed their prospects. These are young, very fit boys, after spending 9 days with no food in the dark and no way of knowing if help was coming you just have to look at the video when they were found to see they have a remarkable presence of mind.  
> It was reported they were briefed, trained and very eager to get going.

They have some advantages but do not for an instant think this isn’t hideously dangerous. Diving in caves isn’t just a matter of being fit. Panic and confusion can kill even an experienced diver.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/220 "2018-07-08T17:30:08Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> They have some advantages but do not for an instant think this isn’t hideously dangerous. Diving in caves isn’t just a matter of being fit. Panic and confusion can kill even an experienced diver.

Yes, it can be very dangerous, but they have some of the best people in the world guiding them through, and those divers have been going in and out from those passages for several days now, I don’t think they’ll find any unexpected situation.  
The main danger, AFAIK, is sudden flooding, it has rained today but the situation as far as I know is stable, tomorrow there’s very little rain expected. I’m fully confident they will all make it out OK.

From what I’ve heard there are two kids in what’s called Chamber 3, still some distance from the exit but IIRC no completely flooded passages, I think this video ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs3t\_Q3iX34](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs3t_Q3iX34)) shows part of that tract of cave. It also helps to underscore the tremendous effort that has gone into this operation, they had to move tons and tons of equipment through those tunnels, there’s over a thousand people involved.  
At the moment they are resetting the exit route, placing air tanks along the way to start moving people out in about 8 hours.

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