# Missing Soccer Team Found Alive in Cave **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 2, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173 "2018-07-02T17:03:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/381 "2018-07-10T14:47:29Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Channel News Asia, Rescue day three, as it happens > > 9:15 Thai time, last four navy seals and the army Dr emerged from the cave. > > The clean up at the site have begun. > > As has the rejoicing! It’s a wrap! ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/382 "2018-07-10T15:02:09Z")
They will likely be in quarantine for a week, some have lung infections, they’ve all been exposed to fungus and bat guano, so an abundance of caution. No one can go to the World Cup, of course. But it looks like a big tv and a live feed are in the works for their hospital stay! :D:D ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/383 "2018-07-10T15:15:21Z")
[Interesting behind the scenes correspondence](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016684366083190785/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1016684366083190785&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fnews%2Flive%2F2018%2Fjul%2F10%2Fthai-cave-rescue-third-mission-planned-to-bring-out-remaining-boys-and-coach-live-updates) between Elon Musk and dive rescue leader Richard Stanton. While I do think that Musk has been generally a good guy in his off-to-the-side role, it appears his ego was stoked here by the Thai acting governor’s summary dismissal. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/384 "2018-07-10T15:18:12Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Today me and a flu left work early, so I had time to [do this](https://imgur.com/a/0qfuDJd), still a work in progress but looking OK so far. Very nice! ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/385 "2018-07-10T15:30:14Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Today me and a flu left work early, so I had time to [do this](https://imgur.com/a/0qfuDJd), still a work in progress but looking OK so far. **Ale** , that is an amazing work already – I find it uncommonly evocative. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/386 "2018-07-10T15:36:36Z")
Ale, that’s great! To me, you well convey the metaphorical weight (of relentless nature, of imperfect human technology…) pulling down the rescuer, constrasting with the lightness of the child — a lightness clearly only made possible by the rescuer’s sacrifice. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/387 "2018-07-10T17:26:52Z")
[https://www.facebook.com/juprempree/videos/1714795765234902/](https://www.facebook.com/juprempree/videos/1714795765234902/) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/388 "2018-07-10T17:30:34Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > [https://www.facebook.com/juprempree/videos/1714795765234902/](https://www.facebook.com/juprempree/videos/1714795765234902/) Great slideshow (although most of the pictures seem to be very low pixel) but terrible music; thanks for the link! ---
**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/389 "2018-07-10T17:48:45Z")
I don’t know when they will make the movie, but what a joyous ending to what could have been such a tragic story. I have no idea who any of the boys are, who the coach is, or any of the divers and yet, I felt such a profound sense of relief and happiness when I read the headline, They are All Out. Hopefully, they all feel well enough to watch the final World Cup games 😊. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/390 "2018-07-10T18:23:39Z")
Did the doctor and three Seals get transported to the hospital? They’ve been livng in the same bat poop as the kids. They may require the same quarantine. It’s so amazing that a rescue this large and complicated was successful. The one fatality occurred while staging supplies for the rescue. There were so many things that could go terribly wrong. Now the kids can get treatment and resume their lives. Soccer practice in a couple months. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/391 "2018-07-10T19:09:25Z")
He had a name. [Saman Gunan](https://abcnews.go.com/International/thai-navy-seal-died-wanting-bring-boys-back/story?id=56409867), Sergeant Major, Royal Thai Navy (retired), age 38. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/392 "2018-07-10T19:20:07Z")
Remarkable! Incredible! I could not be more happy for all these people, team, coach and divers. I’m really anxious to see if everyone is medically okay and hope they all go out and eat the biggest meal of their lives. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/393 "2018-07-10T19:38:50Z")
Maybe someone who has seen the Chilean miner movie can tell me, but how do movie directors show scenes that are in total darkness? Any light would be unrealistic, yet audiences might not like total darkness for long. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/394 "2018-07-10T19:46:14Z")
I hope a book is written about the rescue team. How it was assembled and profiles of the men. This had to be one of the largest teams of international cave divers ever assembled. Plus they had a large team of very proficient Thai Seal divers. I would guess the internet diving boards played a part in recruiting so many international cave divers. Did they pay their own way to Thailand? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/395 "2018-07-10T20:17:12Z")
> [@Iggy](#): > > French narration on that video, so maybe a francophone Doper can translate a bit. It’s a general commentary about the rescue procedure, esecially the technical aspects. I think it’s a generic documentary or training video. I also suspect it’s quite old (the voice-over, tone of voice, etc… is remeniscent of documentaries from, say, 40 years ago). I’m quite certain it’s not a video of the rescue. On top of it, I doubt they would have wasted energy on filming, especially this quality of filming. Note how the water is crystal clear, the lightning perfect… ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/396 "2018-07-10T20:26:42Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I would guess the internet diving boards played a part in recruiting so many international cave divers. I wouldn’t. Would you be willing to risk your life or someone else’s to an unknown name on a forum? Instead I expect Thai officials contacted Thai cave divers who knew one or more top cave diving experts in Britain. And these knew other expert cave divers. And this connected personal knowledge generated the large group of volunteers. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/397 "2018-07-10T20:27:36Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I would guess the internet diving boards played a part in recruiting so many international cave divers. Did they pay their own way to Thailand? I suspect the world of cave dive rescue is so small that once somebody has googled and found Rick Stanton then the rest falls into place very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/398 "2018-07-10T20:38:36Z")
Regarding the coach’s culpability one way or the other … [here’s an article someone linked to on another board](https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/world/thai-cave-rescue-how-the-cave-nightmare-began-ng-b88889337z). Can any Australian Dopers vouch for for the journalistic integrity of the Perth Sunday Times tabloid? > [@](#): > > IT was a birthday celebration after Saturday morning football practice. The 12 boys — members of Moo Pa, the Wild Boars football team — were drawn to a vast and seemingly magical cave, Tham Luang. > > **It’s two weeks ago now since it all began. The boys, aged 11 to 16, rode their bikes down to the cave and spent 700 baht ($28) at the local shop, buying food, soft drink and sweets.** > > They left their bikes at the entrance and descended deep into the cave. The sign nearby warning that venturing inside during the wet season was dangerous because of the risk of sudden flooding meant little — this was a place they knew and loved. > > They were a motley mob — hill tribe lads, Shan, Lahu and Lua, plus a couple of Lanna Thai (boys from the north) — on a boys’ own adventure. But their little journey of exploration was badly timed. A torrential downpour, hardly surprising at this time of year — rudu fon (rainy season) — has left them in a dire predicament. > > Family members raised the alarm later that day. Where were they? > > **Their parents’ concern drove their coach 25-year-old Ekapol Jantawong, a stateless orphan who shared their love of football, to the cave. Near the entrance, he found their bikes, a discovery that meant he had to go deep inside to try to locate them and bring them back**. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/399 "2018-07-10T20:43:26Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > I suspect the world of cave dive rescue is so small that once somebody has googled and found Rick Stanton then the rest falls into place very quickly. It was probably fortuitous that Thailand is a mecca of both diving and spelunking. Seems there were especially a lot of ex-pat diving professionals living in Thailand. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173/400 "2018-07-10T21:08:04Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Regarding the coach’s culpability one way or the other … [here’s an article someone linked to on another board](https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/world/thai-cave-rescue-how-the-cave-nightmare-began-ng-b88889337z). Can any Australian Dopers vouch for for the journalistic integrity of the Perth Sunday Times tabloid? Now that I think about it, it seems unlikely that the coach went in after them. If the kids went in by themselves and became trapped by floodwaters, then how could the coach have gotten to them? Not saying this article was dead-wrong; afterall, it’s possible the coach swam through some mildly flooded passes and reached the trapped kids, after which time the flooding got worse and worse and drove them farther back in to the cave. All still too premature to assign/absolve blame. Now that everyone is out, the kids and the coach will all tell their stories first-hand, and then we’ll know with much more confidence what really happened. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missing-soccer-team-found-alive-in-cave/817173.md?page=21)