Missing the obvious in films

It’s a fanwank theory, but I thought that same thing while watching it the first time. There’s a lot of focus put on Bill’s hands and sword and ring which is very similar to the killer’s from the animated sequence. (The character is given a different name in the credits if memory serves.)

It’s in the same category as the briefcase holds Marcellus’ soul theory.

No, you aren’t the only person that didn’t know this. Add me to that list. I didn’t get it, either! :smack: My brother said he figured it out from the trailer, too. I have a good friend that can figure out any movie (especially whodunits) after watching a movie for a few minutes. He’s almost never wrong! The sad part about that is he misreads people in REAL life all the time. I don’t get it…

It’s already been mentioned, but you really should see the 2003 Peter Pan. It’s the best version of that story I’ve ever seen, with Peter being played by a boy instead of a small-breasted woman, Wendy being played by a girl on the verge of womanhood and the feeling of first love between the two is honest and believable. Captain Hook/Mr. Darling is great - the whole thing is magical in a way that Speilberg’s Hook never managed.

It failed at the box office, and it is exactly the sort of film that people who don’t go to the movies claim they “just don’t make any more”. They do…you just don’t support them.

I was so lucky that I saw The Sixth Sense before anyone spoiled it for me (thanks loads overlyverbose on behalf of those who have not yet seen The Others) or told me there was a “twist”. I saw it with my wife, who had seen it a day or two before, and was stunned and moved by the revelation. And just as knocked out, though in a different way, seeing it the second time at how the exact same scene, the exact same piece of film, elicits two different emotional reactions depending on my fore-knowledge.

I feel pity for those who watch films trying to “figure out” the film instead of letting it move and entertain them. If I spend my time thinking about that, it has to be a really awful film, completely incapable of holding my attention.

I feel a lot less like an idiot, then. It seems like everyone at least claims to have guessed the twist in The Sixth Sense right from the start. When I watched it a second time, knowing how it ended, there were clues everywhere that then seemed so obvious that I couldn’t believe I missed them the first time around.

Sixth Sense? Caught me by surprise. Completely.

However, re-viewing it I can see that he played absolutely fair with us, we just didn’t notice that noone else is interactng with the character, or that he is wearing the same clothes all the time, or any one of the other four hundred clues given.

It was perfectly done.

Granted, he was buried in a ton of makeup, wig, and fat suit, but I didn’t realize that Fat Bastard was yet another character played by Mike Meyers. It wasn’t until I heard him doing a Scottish accent in other roles that I put two and two together. Duh!

Agreed. Shyamalan played fair yet he broke the rules of common assumptions filmakers ask us to make when watching movies.
When we watch a movie and see snipits of peoples lives through scenes the filmmaker wants us to assume there is more to their day than what we see.
We never watch people go to the bathroom or sleep a complete 8 hours each night but is it fair for the filmmaker to come back and say “gotcha- the guy never urinates!” just because we never saw it?

I got caught by The Sixth Sense, too. I had no idea going in that there even was a twist, so I wasn’t prepared. It was incredibly effective when you weren’t expecting it.

I’ll do you one better: I never saw it until the DVD came out, and I still didn’t catch on. Somehow I avoided spoilers for several months without really trying.

When The Empire Strikes Back first came out (I was 10), I thought that big hologram of the emperor was the ghost of Governor Tarkin from episode 4. I just assumed that since Tarkin was the only one to boss Vader around in the last movie, his ghost was the only one who could boss him around in the next one. Yet, the whole “I am your father” thing I saw coming a mile away. It seemed obvious after the duel with the apparition of Vader when he sees his own face behind the mask.

Oh, through my entire first viewing of Coming To America, I didn’t realize that the old jewish guy in the barber shop was Eddie Murphy until the credits.

I didn’t figure it out until the hospital scene when Haley says

“I see dead people, but they don’t know that they are dead

Shutter Island, though, I figured out from the trailer (not that I didn’t still enjoy it or get surprised by some things).

OTOH I didn’t get the end of The Usual Suspects until someone explained it to me, probably because I hadn’t been paying close attention to all the details.

I hate it when people tell me ahead of time that there’s a twist at the end. That gives away too much. Let me find that out for myself!

(hijack) Yep, same here. That’s why it was so cool! Eddie Murphy as Akeem, Eddie Murphy as the old barber, Eddie Murphy as…WTF…the old white Yiddishe guy in the barber shop?! Damn, talk about a good make-up job. (/hijack)

One of the trailers actually played this up.
“Coming to America starring Eddie Murphy (Akeem) and Eddie Murphy (the barber), AND Eddie Murphy (old jewish guy)!”
Usual Suspects-
I did guess Verbal was Soze literally seconds before the reveal scene. I said it under my breath and my friend next to me turned to me and said “What? No.” And then as the scene unfolded he turned to me with his jaw dropped.

OK. Not being able to guess the ending of films like The Sixth Sense, The Others or The Usual Suspects is not “missing the obvious in films.” :rolleyes: You’re not *supposed *to guess the ending. Yes, some people do, but that is not the intent of the film, they are supposed to be twist endings that surprise you.

That’s because people on the internet want to appear smarter than they really are. “Haha, you rube! You were fooled by that simple film? Well I knew exactly what would happen from the opening scene! Bow before my intellect you fool!”

This wasn’t me, but when The Matrix came out way back in '99, a highly respected movie critic in my area gave it a terrible review. He thought it was about the most pathetic and plot-hole-filled thing he had ever seen, and the worst plot hole was that they *never explained where the aliens came from… *

:eek:

Yea…2003 Peter Pan was a fine flick. Of course, everyone just assumed it was a kids movie and were disappointed.

The neatest thing about that movie is I took my wife to it. During the ‘thimble/kiss’ scene my wife put her hand to her mouth and turned and looked at me in surprise and said…“That’s what you asked me when we were first dating!” Yup. “Why didn’t you explain it?” I said I just assumed you hadn’t read Peter Pan and let it drop. The fact she remembered that struck me as amazing :slight_smile:

… ahahahaha. That’s fucking brilliant.

Didn’t see *Sixth Sense *coming but I did see this early on. Notice the lighter in the opening scene? Later as Verbal was lighting a cig I said that’s the same lighter. He’s that guy at the beginning.