# Mission Accomplished, my Rosy Red Ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 14, 2006, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076 "2006-12-14T04:23:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/41 "2006-12-14T15:00:26Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] Not to mention that Carter didn’t do a whole lot of harm while in office. The same can’t be said of the current President. [/QUOTE] Sorry, my fault, I was comparing Carter to Presidents prior to this Bush. This Bush is the worst President in my lifetime. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/42 "2006-12-14T15:09:53Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Sorry, my fault, I was comparing Carter to Presidents prior to this Bush. This Bush is the worst President in my lifetime. Jim [/QUOTE] And it takes a Lot to make Nixon look good. **“Heckuva Job, Dubya…!”** ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/43 "2006-12-14T15:19:14Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Sorry, my fault, I was comparing Carter to Presidents prior to this Bush. This Bush is the worst President in my lifetime. [/QUOTE] Please don’t ever apologize to me for bashing Bush. Consider me a bottomless well of forgiveness for that particular sin. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/44 "2006-12-14T15:27:18Z")
I was listening to one of Bush’s recent speeches about ‘victory in Iraq’ and I swear to God, he sounded like he was whining. Then I listened to some people saying they were for the war once but now it had gone badly, with 20/20 hindsight they could see that, and THEY sounded like a bunch of stinking whiners, too. Hey, you stupid fucks, we liberals, we traitors, we America-haters, we were right all along, weren’t we? And if you weren’t the dumbest bunch of fucks ever to enter a voting booth, you’d have seen that in 2000. Hell, in 2004 you were MORONS to re-elect Bush. You’ll get agreement from me about the current state of affairs, but no sympathy. I saw through the Chimp from the beginning. And I’m no genius. You’re a bunch of fucking idiots, however. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/45 "2006-12-14T15:34:58Z")
Ah, I was at this point of rage about 6 months ago as evidenced by my increasingly hysterical Pit threads about the moronic policies this man has inflicted on this country since day one. For this I was called a Bush-basher. No matter how many times I pointed out that it was his _policies_ that I was bashing and not the man (even though he really is a fucking moron) there were still those who would classify my rage as a personality conflict. I passed the rage point. The peak came just about the time he pushed through his torture initiative and killed habeas corpus. And then it hit me. There was nothing I could do about it. Nothing. Nothing but wait and hope that the rest of the electorate would catch up with me. Good job, electorate! I knew you’d all come to see it my way. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/46 "2006-12-14T15:36:25Z")
**Evil Captor** , If I had the ability to search back past a year, I’d look at some of those old threads where the patriotism of you and I was called into question. A good portion of the board was pro-war, and a general sentiment was that they’d show us in good time. It would be fun to see who those morons were. On the other hand, a little while back I searched on threads started on 9/11, just to see what the sentiment was on that day. In response to the terror attacks, one poster said something disparaging about Bush. Another poster responded with (and I paraphrase here) “How dare you turn this into a partisan issue? These attacks will NEVER be used as a partisan issue, so stick it up your ass!” ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/47 "2006-12-14T15:37:28Z")
[QUOTE=Biggirl] For this I was called a Bush-basher. [/QUOTE] Take is as a compliment. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/48 "2006-12-14T15:43:44Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Bush has pulled the teeth on many on our environmental protections, tried to drill in a wildlife preserve for little true gain and dishonored our reputation around the world with an ill-conceived, illegal private war. His VP is more crooked and morally depraved than even Nixon. He has probably caused another militant Islamic state to come into being that will increase the amount of violence and terrorism in the world. Jim [/QUOTE] Hey, but on the plus side, he just might have kicked off the End Times! 😃 sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/49 "2006-12-14T15:54:46Z")
I think winning would, at the very least mean finding the weapons of mass distruction. I think we can all agree on that. Tris ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/50 "2006-12-14T16:07:54Z")
[QUOTE=madmonk28] That hasn’t stopped them before. [/QUOTE] [Get yer roll of shame](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=170380) right here. Wonder how many of the apologists in that thread are now ready to apologise? ---
**Author:** ![born\_too\_late](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba9def/32.png) [@born\_too\_late](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/born_too_late)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/51 "2006-12-14T16:12:35Z")
I’m tired of bashing Bush. I’m tired of hearing the Bush bashing. He’s always been a poor fucking excuse for a human being, let alone anywhere near competent to wipe his own ass, and let way far fucking alone lead the country. And this has always been supremely evident as long as you pay attention to any media other than Rush fucking Limbaugh or Ann fucking Coulter. I mean, it’s really fucking hard not to see the occasional New York Times headline telling us what a drugged-out draft-dodging company-mismanager he is. What I’d really like to do is pit the myriad of fucking imbecile citizens who can’t be bothered to pay attention to current events to notice that he’s a fucking ass clown. And what more evidence do you need to come to the conclusion that this country is full of deliberately ignorant dumb-ass motherfuckers than the fact that we elected this same worthless piece of shit TWICE? And I’m including the lazy shitheads that couldn’t be bothered to vote, too. Even if the elections were rigged, if this country had any clue at all, we should have been able to elect almost anybody but Bush. And yet we didn’t. So fuck all the ignorant, dumb-ass lazy American dipshits. Y’all get what you deserve. Fuckwits. Education, my ass. ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/52 "2006-12-14T16:17:10Z")
[QUOTE=Book Monster] Disgusting isn’t it? He’s going to send even more soldiers over there to try and get his foot out of this monumental pile of steaming shit he’s stepped in, but he has no idea how to do it or how to even begin to fix what he’s irrevocably broken. [/QUOTE] This is the part that I’m currently most distressed about. Nobody has any freaking idea how to pull this one out of the fire, so you get a “bipartisan consensus” – i.e., no one has the balls to say no – to send more troops. Just to see if it helps, you understand. I feel like we’re fated to do it, and I just know the Democrats are going to let us down by going along with the idea, however grudgingly. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/53 "2006-12-14T16:19:45Z")
[QUOTE=Triskadecamus] I think winning would, at the very least mean finding the weapons of mass distruction. I think we can all agree on that. Tris [/QUOTE] Counting down the time to SA or Liam arrive breathless with the news that a rusty shell containing harmless gloop that was once, in 1987, dangerous, has been found in some long forgotten hole in the ground … Meanwhile - because when these people are on the ground that is the time to kick the spleen out of the moronic, lying, sociopathic sacks of shit I present [The Good News From Iraq National Review site](http://author.nationalreview.com/?q=MjE4OA==&p=MjAwNg==) Glory in the 16 entries for 2006 (archive not updated since September, probably because they can’t keep up with the Biblical-like Flood of good cheer flowing out of Happyland). Rejoice in the news that: > [@](#): > > Twenty-five of about 31 tribes in Anbar, a vast, mostly desert region that stretches westward from Baghdad to the borders of Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, have united against insurgents and gangs that are “killing people for no reason,” said the tribal leader, Sheik Abdul Sattar Buzaigh al-Rishawi. Pay no attention whatsoever to [The US Marine behind the curtain](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/27/AR2006112701287.html) > [@](#): > > The U.S. military is no longer able to defeat a bloody insurgency in western Iraq or counter al-Qaeda’s rising popularity there, according to newly disclosed details from a classified Marine Corps intelligence report that set off debate in recent months about the military’s mission in Anbar province. > > The Marines recently filed an updated version of that assessment that stood by its conclusions and stated that, as of mid-November, the problems in troubled Anbar province have not improved, a senior U.S. intelligence official said yesterday. “The fundamental questions of lack of control, growth of the insurgency and criminality” remain the same, the official said. > [@](#): > > Between al-Qaeda’s violence, Iran’s influence and an expected U.S. drawdown, “the social and political situation has deteriorated to a point” that U.S. and Iraqi troops “are no longer capable of militarily defeating the insurgency in al-Anbar,” the assessment found. In Anbar province alone, at least 90 U.S. troops have died since Sept. 1. I’m forced to conclude there are two Anbar Provinces in Iraq. Either that or someone is a lying bastard. Now who might that be? Let me think, it’ll come to me. But meanwhile - more Good News > [@](#): > > In his opening speech at the second national reconciliation conference Al-Maliki said “our goals are big and they require patience and perseverance.” He said “we need unity and the basis of unity is reconciliation and the principle of dialogue far away from extremism and violence.” Al-Maliki noted that reconciliation means protecting national unity and the country from terrorism and joining efforts to strengthen the country’s economy. Ponies! Ponies for everyone! Al-Maliki? That name sounds familiar somehow. wait - isn’t that the Prime Minister of Greenzonia? The same guy whose country was too unsafe for him to meet President Gump in so they had to go to Jordan? And whose political allies walked out of Parliament because he was meeting Gump? I hate these lying bastards. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/54 "2006-12-14T16:26:12Z")
[QUOTE=Sal Ammoniac] Nobody has any freaking idea how to pull this one out of the fire, so you get a “bipartisan consensus” – i.e., no one has the balls to say no – to send more troops. [/QUOTE] “Bipartisan concensus”? I think _not_. This is the McCain plan. The first step in his campaign to become the next president of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/55 "2006-12-14T16:29:28Z")
[QUOTE=born too late] What I’d really like to do is pit the myriad of fucking imbecile citizens who can’t be bothered to pay attention to current events to notice that he’s a fucking ass clown. And what more evidence do you need to come to the conclusion that this country is full of deliberately ignorant dumb-ass motherfuckers than the fact that we elected this same worthless piece of shit TWICE? [/QUOTE] Just for a surreality check, does anyone remember when there was a movement to add Dubya’s mug to Mount Rushmore? I think it was at that point that I resigned myself to the fact that I’m mired in a country of fuckwits. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/56 "2006-12-14T16:38:24Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] I think the way that Carter handled the Iranian hostage crisis, getting them all back without losing a single life, showed much more competence in foreign affairs than had he gone in with guns blazing like Bush may have done in the same situation. [/QUOTE] Let’s not forget the [Camp David Accords](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_Accords). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/57 "2006-12-14T16:44:10Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] Just for a surreality check, does anyone remember when there was a movement to add Dubya’s mug to Mount Rushmore? I think it was at that point that I resigned myself to the fact that I’m mired in a country of fuckwits. [/QUOTE] I think you’re thinking of the movement to add Reagan to Rushmore. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/58 "2006-12-14T16:49:25Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] Just for a surreality check, does anyone remember when there was a movement to add Dubya’s mug to Mount Rushmore? I think it was at that point that I resigned myself to the fact that I’m mired in a country of fuckwits. [/QUOTE] We already got Teddy up there, got the whole “war on false premises” schtick covered. As to your “mired” remark, 'tis true, 'tis true. But democracy is a committment that is virtually faith-based, one has to believe. Democracy is not the best form of governance, it is simply the most just. For myself, I would rather be misruled by a vast sea of nincompoops that by an elite cadre of same. Our Republic is an experiment, a work in progress, and it can fail at any moment. Ya gotta believe. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/59 "2006-12-14T17:01:01Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] I think you’re thinking of the movement to add Reagan to Rushmore. [/QUOTE] There was one for Bush as well. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076/60 "2006-12-14T17:08:04Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] I think the way that Carter handled the Iranian hostage crisis, getting them all back without losing a single life, showed much more competence in foreign affairs than had he gone in with guns blazing like Bush may have done in the same situation. [/QUOTE] I guess the fiasco at Desert One doesn’t count as loss of life or as an invasion? That “competence” is part of what caused voters to show him the door en masse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mission-accomplished-my-rosy-red-ass/384076.md?page=4)