# Mississippi school district outraged about student survey **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 19, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-school-district-outraged-about-student-survey/582470 "2011-05-19T17:07:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-school-district-outraged-about-student-survey/582470/41 "2011-05-24T20:16:45Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > I’ve never seen a TFA that wasn’t intelligent and committed. Maybe in over their heads, but so is any first year teacher. Aren’t the reqs for TFA higher than NCLB? Or has that changed? > > Interesssssssssssssssssssssting > > [Teach for America: 5 Myths That Persist 20 Years On](http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2047211,00.html#ixzz1NFYJeJlC) I’m not sure myth 5 is a complete myth. I haven’t seen much of an increase in teacher effectiveness as a result of a master’s degree in education. If teaching is anything like other jobs then most of the stuff taught in school is secondary to what is learned in the real world. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-school-district-outraged-about-student-survey/582470/42 "2011-06-10T22:38:15Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > largely fraudulent . . . Michelle Rhee movement. Can you elaborate? I watched a movie recently that really lionized her, but I got the impression that the filmmakers weren’t being very objective about it. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-school-district-outraged-about-student-survey/582470/43 "2011-06-10T23:10:23Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I’m not sure myth 5 is a complete myth. I haven’t seen much of an increase in teacher effectiveness as a result of a master’s degree in education. > > If teaching is anything like other jobs then most of the stuff taught in school is secondary to what is learned in the real world. I think it depends on WHEN you got your Masters and how it compares to people who have been teaching for 40 years. edit: imho, I’d sooner hire someone with a MA in History than MA in Ed. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-school-district-outraged-about-student-survey/582470/44 "2011-06-20T08:43:35Z")
> [@](#): > > **sh1bu1** : There is a certain belief that people learn better from “people like them” thatt hey can identify with, and that educational materials must be carefully constructed to include as many women and people of color as possible. This has become an orthodoxy within the liberal educational system. The concept is nothing new. When I entered publishing in 1967, I was told to include illustrations that featured many cultures in our books. When I began teaching in 1969, multi-culturalism was emphasized in textbooks. Why not? Diversity reflects reality. But the most important thing that people outside the cohesive classroom don’t seem to get is that when things seem to click between the students and the teacher, the students realize that **we are like them** – no matter what “race,” gender, or age we are. The students didn’t seem to see skin color as an issue. Too bad racists got involved. They reminded me of the white people of Mississippi and how they talked about “outsiders” half a century ago. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-school-district-outraged-about-student-survey/582470.md?page=2)