# Mississippi voters approve new state flag **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 6, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870 "2020-11-06T00:38:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/1 "2020-11-06T00:38:16Z")
On Election Day, the voters of Mississippi voted to retire a 126 year old flag which featured the Confederate battle ensign and replace it with a new design featuring a magnolia blossom. > **[Mississippi’s new magnolia flag starting to fly after vote](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/mississippi-s-new-magnolia-flag-starting-fly-after-vote-n1246589)** > > “Mississippi voters sent a message to the world that we are moving forward together,” former Mississippi Supreme Court Justice Reuben Anderson said in a statement. The previous flag was actually retired in June. Tuesday’s vote was a formality in order to require the state legislature to officially adopt the new one. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/2 "2020-11-06T00:40:39Z")
Good for MS. I was glad when GA retired the disgusting 1958 battle flag. That fight was a real bruiser. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/3 "2020-11-06T00:51:09Z")
Your avatar seems very appropriate to this thread. Also good for Miss, to finally move on. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/4 "2020-11-06T00:56:34Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Also good for Miss, to finally move on. No, it didn’t. It just moved to a different form of flag-based bigotry. Instead of “fuck everyone who isn’t white”, their flag is “fuck everyone who isn’t Christian.” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/5 "2020-11-06T01:05:45Z")
I missed something then, are you bitching about the _In God we Trust_? Is that Christian only? I’m agnostic and I pretty much ignore that empty phrase, last I checked its on most of our money too. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/6 "2020-11-06T01:09:04Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I missed something then, are you bitching about the _In God we Trust_ ? Is that Christian only? Damn right I am. And damn right it is. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/7 "2020-11-06T01:11:23Z")
OK, still a decent increment forward from a Pro-Slavery flag to something no worse than the USA’s money. ---
**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/8 "2020-11-06T01:37:24Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Damn right I am. And damn right it is. OK, so Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. etc. don’t have god(s)?? ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/9 "2020-11-06T01:46:20Z")
It shouldn’t endorse ANY beliefs re: religion. Would you be ok with “We Trust In No Gods” ? ---
**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/10 "2020-11-06T01:48:10Z")
Yes, I would be. I was only disputing the statement that “In God We Trust” could only be applicable to Christians. ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/11 "2020-11-06T01:49:04Z")
Understood. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/12 "2020-11-06T01:59:03Z")
The motto is a little awkward unless you are a monotheist. Atheists and polytheists need not apply. But that motto is fine for Jews and Muslims, as well as Christians. I think it’s an improvement. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/13 "2020-11-06T02:08:28Z")
> [@Capn\_Carl](#): > > It shouldn’t endorse ANY beliefs re: religion. Would you be ok with “We Trust In No Gods” ? > [@jaycat](#): > > Yes, I would be. I was only disputing the statement that “In God We Trust” could only be applicable to Christians. “We Trust In No Gods” would also be totally unacceptable as a government-endorsed motto for a free country. “E Pluribus Unum” is a perfectly good motto for a federal republic (and for a “melting pot” nation composed of immigrants from across the world). Neither “In God We Trust” nor "We Trust In No Gods” is acceptable, and both for the same reason: They both are, or would be, lies. Not ALL Americans trust in God (or any sort of allegedly divine entity). Not even all Mississippians trust in God. And, of course, not all Americans “trust in no Gods” either. Also, vexillologically-speaking, mottoes have no place on flags anyway. The flag without the motto–without _any_ motto–would be a very nice flag. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/14 "2020-11-06T02:18:22Z")
> [@jaycat](#): > > Yes, I would be. I was only disputing the statement that “In God We Trust” could only be applicable to Christians. Do you _really_ think that the people that made that flag are thinking about Vishnu, Allah, Zoraster, and Amaterasu? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/15 "2020-11-06T02:23:01Z")
You know that “Allah” is just Arabic for “God”, right? Vishnu? Not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/16 "2020-11-06T02:24:32Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > You know that “Allah” is just Arabic for “God”, right? Do you _really_ think that the people that made that flag believe that? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/17 "2020-11-06T03:34:59Z")
Mississippi, in a bipartisan way, said “all right, OK, we’ll get rid of the emblem of treason, slavery and white supremacism”. And may I say they did so much, much better than did Georgia. So credit to them. As to the later objection: Meh. I mean, look at the picture of the flag. Consider how you’d see the flag when flying from a pole in a yard or marching past you in a parade. That slogan will be virtually illegible unless you’re right up next and looking for it. I know, I know, just _knowing_ it’s there … and even just from the neutral point of view of vexillology it’s not a Best Practice. But if that was what was needed to get the law passed, so be it. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/18 "2020-11-06T04:06:03Z")
“All Others Pay Cash”? ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/19 "2020-11-06T04:15:32Z")
I like the Magnolia. So much better than the “cram everything onto the flag” route Wisconsin went. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/20 "2020-11-06T04:22:10Z")
Really? Because the Followers of the Prophet and the Jewish faith have the same G-d. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870.md?page=2)