# Mississippi voters approve new state flag

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 6, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870 "2020-11-06T00:38:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/81 "2020-11-08T13:54:13Z")

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Vexillogically speaking, I’m inclined to cut more slack for city flags than for state or national ones. There are only a few hundred nations in the world-- It’s easy to come up with enough simple, clean designs to cover all of them. Heck, you could get a good fraction of the way there just with vertical or horizontal tricolors. With national subdivisions like states, you have a lot more, and so you need to expand your design space. And cities, does anyone even know how many cities there are in the world that are large enough to have their own flag? And it’s not even enough to have a design space large enough to cover that many cities, because the designers of a city flag won’t be familiar with all of the other city flags in the world: You need a design space large enough to avoid accidental collisions, which requires flags at least twice as complicated as you would need if cities were all coordinating.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/82 "2020-11-08T17:17:17Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> nd cities, does anyone even know how many cities there are in the world that are large enough to have their own flag? And it’s not even enough to have a design space large enough to cover that many cities, because the designers of a city flag won’t be familiar with all of the other city flags in the world: You need a design space large enough to avoid accidental collisions, which requires flags at least twice as complicated as you would need if cities were all coordinating.

I don’t think we need to worry too much about city flags being unique in the world. Indeed there are a couple of national flags that are nearly identical (Monaco, Indonesia, Poland) and it doesn’t make a huge difference.

There aren’t a lot of situations in which absolute distinctiveness of a municipal flag is going to be necessary. It’s okay in my view if uniqueness is sacrificed for better design.

That said, there are some very nice municipal flag designs. See this Tiermaker, for example — [https://tiermaker.com/list/history/us-municipal-and-city-flags-261980/436433](https://tiermaker.com/list/history/us-municipal-and-city-flags-261980/436433)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/83 "2020-11-09T03:48:29Z")

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That does not refute those 90% numbers. Maybe the 90% has gone down, but it does show that the Motto has massive support.

But this is getting to be a bit of a hijack?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/84 "2020-11-09T03:50:45Z")

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I dont think that many Americans are that religious, but Americans- even left leaning agnostics- are patriotic and value tradition.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/85 "2020-11-09T06:31:33Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> That does not refute those 90% numbers. Maybe the 90% has gone down, {…}

I know, right, why can’t people just use the number that proves my point instead of insisting on the most recent number that doesn’t?  
1950’s push polls for the win!!!

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/86 "2020-11-09T06:57:14Z")

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Well, except there is no more recent number. Got one?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/87 "2020-11-09T07:21:35Z")

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No, I don’t. But, since when are Constitutional questions decided by ‘polls’?

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/88 "2020-11-09T07:26:15Z")

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@DrDeth, you loftily declare “enough of your hijack” when you don’t want to address a point.

But then _ **you keep talking about it** _.

So, I want to know, in the phrase “In God We Trust”, who exactly is this “we”? Am _I_ part of this “we”? And if I’m not part of this “we”, what exactly am I?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/89 "2020-11-09T07:28:48Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> So, I want to know, in the phrase “In God We Trust”, who exactly is this “we”? Am _I_ part of this “we”? And if I’m not part of this “we”, what exactly am I?

Don’t bother–it is going to be “we”, “we”, “we” all the way home.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/90 "2020-11-09T16:36:09Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Don’t bother–it is going to be “we”, “we”, “we” all the way home.

I laughed, probably more than was warranted…

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/91 "2020-11-09T18:06:10Z")

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The hijack is over.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/92 "2020-11-10T02:40:08Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> I want to know, in the phrase “In God We Trust”, who exactly is this “we”? Am _I_ part of this “we”? And if I’m not part of this “we”, what exactly am I?

“they”

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mississippi-voters-approve-new-state-flag/924870/93 "2020-11-12T02:25:31Z")

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I ordered one to fly from my flag pole. Should arrive in time for Saturday’s changing.

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