# Missouri and Wisconsin - most forgettable US states **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 12, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558 "2009-10-12T18:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![2ply](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/b2d939/32.png) [@2ply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ply)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/21 "2009-10-12T20:00:47Z")
california produces more cheese, but wisconsin produces more varieties of cheese. they have some damn good cheese. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/22 "2009-10-12T20:09:18Z")
Missouri has some beautiful natural scenery - forests, caves, mountains (such as they are). The Ozark National Scenic Riverways is awesome, too; lots of recreational canoeing and rafting on gentle rivers. Some fabulous wines come out of Missouri, as well. There’s the Norton, which is a dry red with a delicious chocolate-y taste, and also the Vignoles, which can yield a delicious white with a wide variety of fruity notes. I hear that some pretty excellent pot grows in southeastern Missouri. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/23 "2009-10-12T20:21:55Z")
St. Louis has The City Museum, one of the finest children’s museums I’ve ever been to. The outside jungle gym/rumpus room/play area is made from recycled materials and is out-freakin-standing. ---
**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/24 "2009-10-12T20:38:45Z")
I never remember Rhode Island. My family is all from Minnesota and Wisconsin so I never forget those. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/25 "2009-10-12T20:53:29Z")
Missouri = BEER Wisconsin = BEER ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/26 "2009-10-12T20:58:22Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Missouri = BEER > > Wisconsin = BEER Missourah = BEER Wisconsin = MANDATORY BEER I think they breathalyze you at the border, and if your BAC is under .08, they send you to the liquor store. ---
**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/27 "2009-10-12T21:20:32Z")
Wisconsin - Beer, cheese, fireworks, adult toy store. If you watch the billboards as you drive into Wisconsin from either Minneapolis or Chicago, you would think these 4 are the only things sold in Wisconsin. ---
**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/28 "2009-10-12T21:26:24Z")
> [@myskepticsight](#): > > I’m from MO. > > We have at least one really great boating lake - Table Rock. The water is clean and clear and very very deep in some spots. Hmmm… I grew up at Lake Tahoe (Nevada side) which is 1645 feet deep. The highest point in Missouri is Taum Sauk Mountain at 1,772 feet and the lowest is the St. Francis River at 230 for a total elevation change of 1542 feet… about 100 feet shy of the lake I grew up next to. 😉 So how deep is Table Rock lake since a quick Google didn’t pull much up? ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/29 "2009-10-12T21:35:24Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Missouri = BEER > > Wisconsin = BEER In 1982, the St. Louis Cardinals (who play in Busch Stadium, named for the Busch family of beer makers) met the Milwaukee Brewers (who then held home games in the prosaically-named County Stadium, but now play in Miller Park, as in Miller Brewing) in the World Series. Several wags predictably dubbed that year’s baseball championship the “World Beeries”. The Brewers hold the distinction of moving from the American League to the National League for the 1998 season. Previously, Milwaukee had been the home of the NL’s Braves, who played in County Stadium after moving from Boston and before relocating to their current base of Atlanta. St. Louis once had two Major League Baseball teams – the fairly successful Cardinals in the National League and the hapless Browns of the AL. During World War II, most able-bodied American men (including pro athletes) were in military service, so lots of “has-beens” and “never-otherwise-would-have-beens” got to play in the big leagues for a season or two. One of those wartime Browns was Pete Gray, who [had only one arm.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Gray) A few years before the Browns moved to Baltimore, owner Bill Veeck attempted to spark interest in the club by hiring a man named Eddie Gaedel. Gaedel reached base via a walk in his only plate appearance, but was banned from further competition the next day – seems he was deemed to possess an unfair advantage by virtue of having [virtually no strike zone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel). ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/30 "2009-10-12T21:51:49Z")
> [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#): > > Wisconsin - Beer, cheese, fireworks, adult toy store. > If you watch the billboards as you drive into Wisconsin from either Minneapolis or Chicago, you would think these 4 are the only things sold in Wisconsin. The blight of tourism. They drink our beer and eat our cheese. They purchase fireworks that residents can’t and then buy sex toys instead of paying for a hooker. ---
**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/31 "2009-10-12T21:59:41Z")
> [@Desert\_Nomad](#): > > Hmmm… I grew up at Lake Tahoe (Nevada side) which is 1645 feet deep. > > The highest point in Missouri is Taum Sauk Mountain at 1,772 feet and the lowest is the St. Francis River at 230 for a total elevation change of 1542 feet… about 100 feet shy of the lake I grew up next to. 😉 > > So how deep is Table Rock lake since a quick Google didn’t pull much up? Well your lake is a lot deeper. But Table Rock is man-made and it gets up to 200 feet deep. Considering the normal number I see on our boat’s depth finder in MO is between 0-20, Table Rock is deep. ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/32 "2009-10-12T22:13:19Z")
You forgot Wisconsin? Dude, [WTF](http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/10/01/wisconsin-trade-federation-and-our-changing-language) ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/33 "2009-10-12T22:13:36Z")
> [@LateComer](#): > > [Sporcle.com has a name the 50 states game](http://www.sporcle.com/games/states.php) and gives the [most missed (all states listed in order of % gotten) states.](http://www.sporcle.com/games/states_results.php) It looks like Minnessota, Missouri, and Connecticut are the most missed. In the case of Connecticut I’d guess that it’s because a lot of people can’t spell it. I got to Massachusetts last but mainly because I couldn’t see on the map which one I’d missed as I went in no particular order. It took me basically as long as it would take to type all 50 to get it. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/34 "2009-10-12T22:31:55Z")
> [@pbbth](#): > > I never remember Rhode Island. My family is all from Minnesota and Wisconsin so I never forget those. Rhode Island’s easy because it’s the smallest. You can just go “what’s the smallest state?” Delaware, on the other hand, being the second smallest, I always forget about. Other than being the first to ratify the constitution (by four days, big whoop), it’s got nothing. The biggest advantage is has is that for awhile I though Baltimore was in Delaware. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/35 "2009-10-12T23:06:43Z")
> [@2ply](#): > > california produces more cheese, but wisconsin produces more varieties of cheese. they have some damn good cheese. And they sure know how to cut it! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/36 "2009-10-12T23:12:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Missouri has (well, had) Mark Twain. The other 49 states can suck it, we win on points just for that. But we’ve got him now. ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/37 "2009-10-12T23:15:49Z")
Great stuff here people, thanks. Lest we never forget. To sum up: Wisconsin Beer Cheese Cranberries Frank Lloyd Wright Harry Houdini Lakes Milwaukee Missouri Beer Caves Jesse James Mark Twain Moths St. Louis ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/38 "2009-10-12T23:33:47Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I got to Massachusetts last but mainly because I couldn’t see on the map which one I’d missed as I went in no particular order. It took me basically as long as it would take to type all 50 to get it. That’s why I went with alphabetical order. And I still got stuck on Connecticut for a few seconds, and Minnesota for as long as you probably got stuck on Massachusetts. (I didn’t want to skip them.) I guess I’ve gotten too reliant on the little red squigglies: I tried Conecticut and Minisota. ---
**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/39 "2009-10-12T23:38:44Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But we’ve got him now. Ah, but he first used the name “Mark Twain” and got his writing career started in Virginia City, Nevada… my home state. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558/40 "2009-10-12T23:45:53Z")
> [@Desert\_Nomad](#): > > Ah, but he first used the name “Mark Twain” and got his writing career started in Virginia City, Nevada… my home state. 😃 Then he moved to San Francisco, California and wrote _The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County_, in my state. Also, how does anyone forget the smallest state with the biggest name: Rhode Island and Providence Plantations? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/missouri-and-wisconsin-most-forgettable-us-states/513558.md?page=3)