# Mistakes You Missed but Now Can't Stop Noticing **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 6, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536 "2009-08-06T16:16:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/41 "2009-08-07T02:18:19Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The hole he used to escape from his cell was hidden behind a poster. How did he stick the poster to the wall from behind? He keeps it attached at the top, and lifts it up like a flap. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/42 "2009-08-07T02:58:19Z")
I watched a rerun of **The Office** after reading this thread. The one where Dwight steals Michael’s roledex by tricking the staff of Michael Scott Paper Co. into a lunch at [Coopers](http://www.coopers-seafood.com/2007/scranton/menu.html). To cover up his absence he calls them at Coopers, says he hit a bear, and tells them to order a “meatball sub” to go. Later on after he admits it was all a ruse he says he told them to order a meatball sub because it’s the wort thing on their menu. As you can see by my link it’s not on their menu at all. ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/43 "2009-08-07T03:28:55Z")
Continuing with the Storm Trooper Head Clunk Hijack, in **Attack of the Clones** , Lucas reveals that he paid homage to the original blooper. In the fight scene between Obi Wan and Jango Fett -in the rain, beside the escape rocket, more of a fist fight than anything- as Jango is leaving and making his way up the rocket’s entry ramp, the door is lowering and he sort of bumps his head as he enters the ship. I say ‘sort of’ because it’s so subtle I would have never noticed it had Lucas not pointed it out in the director’s commentary. And since all of the clones, and presumably storm troopers, are descended from Jango, they evidently inherited a bit of his clumsiness with the old noggin. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/44 "2009-08-07T03:59:50Z")
> [@minlokwat](#): > > Continuing with the Storm Trooper Head Clunk Hijack, in **Attack of the Clones** , Lucas reveals that he paid homage to the original blooper. > > In the fight scene between Obi Wan and Jango Fett -in the rain, beside the escape rocket, more of a fist fight than anything- as Jango is leaving and making his way up the rocket’s entry ramp, the door is lowering and he sort of bumps his head as he enters the ship. I say ‘sort of’ because it’s so subtle I would have never noticed it had Lucas not pointed it out in the director’s commentary. And since all of the clones, and presumably storm troopers, are descended from Jango, they evidently inherited a bit of his clumsiness with the old noggin. Wow, I noticed on my first viewing in the theater, not even looking for it. Actually, I think there was a minor amount of chuckling throughout the theater. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/45 "2009-08-07T05:25:36Z")
3 adults get into a car. They all sit in front. They get to where they are going, at night. Never turn off the headlights. God, I hate movies! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/46 "2009-08-07T12:28:49Z")
[Where’s Fredo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf13JnJcfTo)? Start about 5:00 into the clip (the final scene of GF2). Fredo, Tom, Michael, and Sonny are sitting at the table. Fredo shakes Michaels hand… then disappears by 6:00. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/47 "2009-08-07T13:01:45Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [Where’s Fredo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf13JnJcfTo)? Start about 5:00 into the clip (the final scene of GF2). Fredo, Tom, Michael, and Sonny are sitting at the table. Fredo shakes Michaels hand… then disappears by 6:00. It sounds to me that Sonny says “That’s right encourage him. (Sarcastically of course) Go on get a drink. Go on.” Then you can hear a chair squeaking which I assume is Fredo leaving. However, Sonny kind of mumbles his “Go on” line so I’m not sure that that’s what he’s saying. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/48 "2009-08-07T16:06:58Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The hole he used to escape from his cell was hidden behind a poster. How did he stick the poster to the wall from behind? > > There’s a good one in _Ocean’s Eleven_ (the George Clooney version). Danny and Linus break into the vault and convince Terry to take out (what he thinks is) half the money in several full black satchels. Later it turns out that there was no money in those bags, just flyers for hookers. How did they get all those flyers into the vault. Well, that’s pretty easy. The fake SWAT team that went in had several satchels full of hooker flyers, as well as another satchel contained inside. So then they took the money, put it in the empty satchels, and left the full stachels in the vault. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/49 "2009-08-07T16:10:09Z")
> [@IdahoMauleMan](#): > > All from movies > 5. I used to love the Shawshank Redemption, but the final escape sequence has become unwatchable for me. The timing of the whole thing is ridiculous. > > First of all, Norton discovers DuFrane is missing before breakfast. Call it 7am at the latest. The first thing the warden would have done was check the safe, whereby he must have known exactly where Andy was going. > > And yet, Andy has time to visit ‘over a dozen banks that morning’, where he is closing out accounts and filling out lots of paperwork. The banks probably didn’t open until 9am - at the earliest. How hard could it be to track him down, since he is on foot, and has to wind his way through bank after bank only a short distance away? That would have taken hours. I’m trying to figure out what excuse the warden would have used for sending people to so many different banks? It’s not like they had fax machines to just send out “wanted” pictures, right? He would have had to send cops to all the banks where he was doing “business” and I suspect someone might ask why they think an escaped murderer might show up at any one of 20 or 30 banks that day? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/50 "2009-08-07T16:25:51Z")
Also in the Lord of the Rings, during Boromir’s very moving death scene, as he’s swearing allegiance to Aragorn as he dies, they use two shots: one looking down at Boromir, and one looking up at Aragorn. They keep switching between the two shots as they alternate their lines. In one shot, Boromir has his hand up on Aragorn’s shoulder. In the other shot, he doesn’t. They switch back and forth at least a half dozen times. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/51 "2009-08-07T16:46:15Z")
> [@crazyjoe](#): > > Well, that’s pretty easy. The fake SWAT team that went in had several satchels full of hooker flyers, as well as another satchel contained inside. So then they took the money, put it in the empty satchels, and left the full stachels in the vault. Nope. Here’s how it goes down: 1. The pinch blows, Danny and Linus drop down the shaft in their Mission Impossible gear, disable the guards, then blow the door open to free Yen (and the money). 2. Rusty calls Benedict and informs him he’s being robbed and explains what he has to do: namely, Rusty’s men in the vault will send up bags, Benedict’s men will load them into the unmarked van, and the van will drive to the airport. Benedict complies. 3. The SWAT van pulls up _immediately_ after the unmarked van _with the decoy bags_ leaves, and the team hustles inside. The “SWAT guys” drop down the elevator, the gun battle is staged, and the explosives go off. Benedict kicks the SWAT team out, who then carry the bags of money out the door. The problem here is with part 2. The SWAT team _had not_ shown by the time Danny and Linus put the decoy bags in the elevator for retrieval. Due to the timing of the staged assault, the bags, both decoy and real, had to have been prepped by Danny, Linus, and Yen before the rest of the gang in SWAT uniforms showed up. It’s very obvious when Danny and Linus enter the vault that they’re not carrying bags of any kind. (I just doublechecked the movie and confirmed that they don’t have any bags with them when they drop down the shaft.) They couldn’t have been brought in with Yen, as the cart he was in had nowhere near enough room. There’s no reason at all Benedict would keep flyers in his vault. So how did they get there? I love the movie to death and have watched it several times, but it is undeniably a big plot hole. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/52 "2009-08-07T17:04:10Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I love the movie to death and have watched it several times, but it is undeniably a big plot hole. I proposed this plot hole, so here’s my answer to it. Who cares? I really like this movie, too, for reasons that have almost nothing to do with the heist. The best scenes are the setups, the interaction, the planning, the inside jokes. By the end, it almost doesn’t matter if they get the money, so why does it matter how? Okay, it matters a little bit, but it’s still a great movie. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/53 "2009-08-07T17:17:49Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Who cares? That’s my thought too. It doesn’t affect my enjoyment of the movie at all, since the heist is just the framework for the good stuff. They’ve got a magical EMP bomb and magical bags of holding. Sure, why not? I watch it for the actors, and the plot hole isn’t the fault of any of the actors. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/54 "2009-08-07T17:18:42Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I love the movie to death and have watched it several times, but it is undeniably a big plot hole. And has been acknowledged as such by the director: > [@IMDb](#): > > Plot holes: The DVD commentary admits that there was no way in which all the flyers that were carried out of the casino and driven to the airport could have been in the vault. [Cite](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240772/goofs) ---
**Author:** ![UncleNito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7cd45c/32.png) [@UncleNito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleNito)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/55 "2009-08-07T18:56:17Z")
> [@IdahoMauleMan](#): > > All from movies > > 1. I used to love the Shawshank Redemption, but the final escape sequence has become unwatchable for me. The timing of the whole thing is ridiculous. > > First of all, Norton discovers DuFrane is missing before breakfast. Call it 7am at the latest. The first thing the warden would have done was check the safe, whereby he must have known exactly where Andy was going. > > And yet, Andy has time to visit ‘over a dozen banks that morning’, where he is closing out accounts and filling out lots of paperwork. The banks probably didn’t open until 9am - at the earliest. How hard could it be to track him down, since he is on foot, and has to wind his way through bank after bank only a short distance away? That would have taken hours. > > That’s all I can think of at the moment. That never bothered me. The only thing that was supposed to have been in the safe that night were the Warden’s freshly-shined shoes. I can imagine the Warden having other things on his mind than his shoes. Meanwhile, DuFresne is going to all the banks under one or more assumed identities, that only the Warden knows are fake. What’s he going to do, divulge his entire scheme to the cops first thing in the morning so they know who to watch for and where to find him? It’s plausible that the Warden wouldn’t do that. I’ve always thought about how much it would have sucked if there turned out to be a grate on the end of that sewer pipe, though. Mine: Breaking Away is pretty much the best cycling movie ever. There’s one scene in which the protagonist drafts an 18-wheeler at 60 MPH. There is a wide-angle shot in which a stunt double (the then-guy who inspired the movie) is actually going 60 MPH. Then there’s a close up shot to show those legs churning away. In the close-up shot, the chain is on the small chainring – the low gears you use for climbing hills, not sprinting. It’s a big inside joke in the cycling community. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/56 "2009-08-07T19:31:01Z")
> [@UncleNito](#): > > (the then-guy who inspired the movie) MtF transgender? Or did I miss something? ---
**Author:** ![UncleNito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7cd45c/32.png) [@UncleNito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleNito)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/57 "2009-08-07T20:29:35Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > MtF transgender? Or did I miss something? If I remember correctly from the “Catching Up With” article I read in Indianapolis Monthly a few months ago, yes. But I can’t seem to verify it on Google, so maybe I remember wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/58 "2009-08-07T21:01:20Z")
I dropped by Wikipedia before I asked, and that didn’t turn up any article on the person, so who knows. ---
**Author:** ![schnuckiputzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@schnuckiputzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/schnuckiputzi)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/59 "2009-08-07T22:12:59Z")
total hijack/ As I read over these, I feel so much better about the rinky-dink high school productions I direct and the screw-ups my kids make. Even the big guys can’t get everyone to shape up and do it right. carry on/ ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536/60 "2009-08-07T22:13:33Z")
> [@UncleNito](#): > > The only thing that was supposed to have been in the safe that night were the Warden’s freshly-shined shoes. Huh? It was the ledger and other papers that were in the safe, and the warden wouldn’t give Andy access to his SAFE. And why would he keep his shoes in the safe? Andy was just supposed to polish them and leave them in the shoebox. The warden was just opening the shoebox to find Andy’s work shoes instead of his wingtips when the sirens went off. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mistakes-you-missed-but-now-cant-stop-noticing/505536.md?page=4)