# Mitch Daniels Calls For More Honest Debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-daniels-calls-for-more-honest-debate/596781>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 19, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-daniels-calls-for-more-honest-debate/596781 "2011-09-19T02:55:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-daniels-calls-for-more-honest-debate/596781/21 "2011-09-26T14:47:08Z")

</div>

> [@gonzomax](#):
>
> Daniels was on the Daly show a couple days ago. He was not revealed as an intelligent fiscal conservative at all. He came out as just another right wing Repub . The episode is available on line.

I agree. For further evidence, listen to his performance on NPR’s Diane Rhem show today (9/26/11).

> **[Diane Rehm](https://dianerehm.org/)**
>
> Diane Rehm is one of the most respected radio journalists of our time. Listen to her podcast “On My Mind.” Explore the Diane Rehm Show archives. Learn about Diane’s upcoming appearances.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-daniels-calls-for-more-honest-debate/596781/22 "2011-09-26T16:34:05Z")

</div>

> [@Broomstick](#):
>
> Which is why Daniel’s isn’t running - he’s raised some taxes. Worse yet, after an attempt to privatize the public aid system became a disastrous failure he brought the whole system back into the public sector, admitting that in this case the government did it better.
> 
> Among other things.
> 
> Daniels isn’t running for president because he’s far too liberal a Republican - that is, he applies common sense to problems rather than pure dogma - for the whackos in the GOP to stomach.

And at the same time, he calls Social Security a Ponzi scheme.

The scary thing is that **Broomstick** is right - he can be that crazy, yet still be too ‘liberal’ for the bulk of the GOP.

Hell, in Rick Perry’s case, all it took to disqualify him in the eyes of much of the GOP base was being in favor of in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants of college age who had been brought to the U.S. by their parents when they were just kids.

You can be 95% crazy as a bedbug, in all the Teabag-approved ways, but a mere 5% sanity and generosity of spirit may well kill your chances for the GOP nomination.

This not only isn’t your father’s GOP, it’s not even the GOP of four years ago.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-daniels-calls-for-more-honest-debate/596781/23 "2011-09-29T04:29:11Z")

</div>

> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
>
> And I assume here he means the Red Chinese:

Qin, with all due respect, i get tired of having to remind you that Red Chinese was a perjorative long before you were born. Hell, maybe before your parents were born. People’s Repubic of China, China, Mainland China are all perfectly acceptable terms. Thanks for playing.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-daniels-calls-for-more-honest-debate/596781/24 "2011-09-29T06:40:49Z")

</div>

_Communist_ China, however, is right out.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-daniels-calls-for-more-honest-debate/596781/25 "2011-09-29T14:05:08Z")

</div>

> [@China\_Guy](#):
>
> Qin, with all due respect, i get tired of having to remind you that Red Chinese was a perjorative long before you were born. Hell, maybe before your parents were born. People’s Repubic of China, China, Mainland China are all perfectly acceptable terms. Thanks for playing.

I keep expecting “Yellow Peril” to make a comeback.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-daniels-calls-for-more-honest-debate/596781/26 "2011-09-29T23:58:13Z")

</div>

> [@China\_Guy](#):
>
> Qin, with all due respect, i get tired of having to remind you that Red Chinese was a perjorative long before you were born. Hell, maybe before your parents were born. People’s Repubic of China, China, Mainland China are all perfectly acceptable terms. Thanks for playing.

I meant in connection with the use of the term “Red Menace” in this case.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-daniels-calls-for-more-honest-debate/596781.md?page=1)
