# Mitch McConnell in the Pit!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 26, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681 "2019-07-26T18:42:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/101 "2019-08-08T13:28:43Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> They were posting video of threats against Mitch, as news stories, not fercryinoutloud as threats.

How is that functionally any different than just posting threats against Mitch?

Why couldn’t the Let’s Kill Mitch Club just post a bunch of threats against Mitch as news stories, then?

You don’t see the difference between saying there were threats and replaying the actual threats?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/102 "2019-08-08T14:01:52Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> You don’t see the difference between saying there were threats and replaying the actual threats?

I don’t see an important difference, except that the latter is more persuasive, if the point of the post is to claim that threats were made against you.

> [@](#):
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> How is that functionally any different than just posting threats against Mitch?
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> Why couldn’t the Let’s Kill Mitch Club just post a bunch of threats against Mitch as news stories, then?

Are you fucking kidding me, asking what the difference is between someone saying, “Here are the threats made against me” and someone else saying, “I am threatening someone”? Seriously, Snowboarder?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/103 "2019-08-08T15:02:16Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> …Are you fucking kidding me, asking what the difference is between someone saying, “Here are the threats made against me” and someone else saying, “I am threatening someone”? Seriously, Snowboarder?

Of course, there is a difference when you phrase it that way. That’s not what this is.

Twitter is monitoring the CONTENT of what is posted, not the INTENT. There NO difference in terms of what the viewer SEES between me posting a video of the graphic, horrible things I plan to do to YOU, and you reposting that video to show what kind of threats I’m making against you.

Do you get this?

A video of a person being dragged through the street, beheaded, and their head impaled on a pike is just as offensive to the viewer whether I post it to threaten you, or you post it to illustrate my threat. The CONTENT is the same and it is offensive, whatever the reason for posting it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/104 "2019-08-08T15:40:58Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The most basic tenet of a civilized society is “treat others as you wish to be treated”; many Republicans have forgotten, ignored or disavowed that. Now they’ll have to live, at least for a while, in the society they’ve helped create.

They are getting the same disrespect and raft of shit they gave out and it hurts their feelings.

As they said to us, “fuck your feelings”.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/105 "2019-08-08T15:43:37Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> OK, that broken-shoulder story is disappointing. I was hoping that he broke it from recoil, during a photo-op where he was showing off with a gun too powerful for him.

Too bad it wasn’t his neck.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/106 "2019-08-08T15:47:57Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> As I understand it, Twitter has suspended McConnell’s campaign account. No link just yet.
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> ETA: [Raw Story](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/twitter-suspends-mitch-mcconnells-campaign-after-profanity-laced-video/).

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The story is blowing up all over teh intarwebz.
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> [The Hill](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/456646-twitter-suspends-mcconnell-campaign-for-posting-video-of-protesters-profanity)  
> [Axios](https://www.axios.com/mitch-mcconnell-campaign-twitter-account-suspended-4a08e1e5-d0e1-45cb-9e8d-d261e3467972.html)  
> [WKYT in Louisville, KY](https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Mitch-McConnell-campaign-Twitter-handle-suspended-526124381.html)  
> Even [Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-locks-out-mcconnell-campaign-for-posting-video-of-calls-for-violence-at-mcconnells-home) has a story now.
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> I welcome correction, but AFAIK you can’t post threats of violence on Twitter, and Moscow Mitch’s campaign did just that.

Interesting. I got my Twitter account suspended almost immediately after I called him “Moscow Mitch Putin’s bitch”, commented on how much he apparently got for being a Russian asset, and called him a cheap crack whore. (Some bullshit about “safe environments” and shit).

Anyway, fuck Twitter and fuck him.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/107 "2019-08-08T15:50:20Z")

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Well said **Thelma Lou** ; thanks for the backup. I’m at work right now and it’s difficult for me to post.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/108 "2019-08-08T15:51:48Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Interesting. I got my Twitter account suspended almost immediately after I called him “Moscow Mitch Putin’s bitch”

I hadn’t heard that one before. Nice, it rhymes, it has good cadence, and it’s just close enough to alliteration that it flows, but isn’t too corny.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/109 "2019-08-08T15:58:12Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I hadn’t heard that one before. Nice, it rhymes, it has good cadence, and it’s just close enough to alliteration that it flows, but isn’t too corny.

Hey, you might like this. I’ve been pushing it for a few days now, but it doesn’t seem to be catching…

> [@bobot](#):
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> How about a Moscow Mitch home made you tube song?
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> At the very least, you have to give that you tuber an A for effort!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/110 "2019-08-08T17:04:35Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I hadn’t heard that one before. Nice, it rhymes, it has good cadence, and it’s just close enough to alliteration that it flows, but isn’t too corny.

It’s a good jump rope rhyme to teach the kids.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/111 "2019-08-08T18:53:12Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Well said **Thelma Lou** ; thanks for the backup. I’m at work right now and it’s difficult for me to post.

You’re welcome. There’s a lot of _reductio ad absurdum_ around here, i.e., people pretending to be stupid. Or maybe not.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/112 "2019-08-08T21:07:18Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Of course, there is a difference when you phrase it that way. That’s not what this is.
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> Twitter is monitoring the CONTENT of what is posted, not the INTENT. There NO difference in terms of what the viewer SEES between me posting a video of the graphic, horrible things I plan to do to YOU, and you reposting that video to show what kind of threats I’m making against you.
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> Do you get this?
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> A video of a person being dragged through the street, beheaded, and their head impaled on a pike is just as offensive to the viewer whether I post it to threaten you, or you post it to illustrate my threat. The CONTENT is the same and it is offensive, whatever the reason for posting it.

A video of beheading and impaling is objectionable because it’s highly gory and by itself extremely disturbing. That’s not at all the same thing.

Again, would I get banned if I posted the article I linked to, earlier?

What about [this article?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/08/twitter-stirs-hornets-nest-with-mcconnell-account-freeze/) It’s about Twitter’s banning of McConnell, and contains this paragraph:

> [@WaPo](#):
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> McConnell’s camp argued that that hashtag amounted to violent threats against him. They posted the video of a protester on camera in front of his house in Kentucky yelling “Just stab the m----- f----- in the heart, please.” And “Die!” (The new hashtag followed days of his critics using the nickname “Moscow Mitch” for not bringing up bipartisan election-security bills.)

Note that the paragraph contains a death threat in it. Are you seriously suggesting that Twitter is going to ban someone for posting that article, or that paragraph?

Because that’s super ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/113 "2019-08-08T21:13:45Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You’re welcome. There’s a lot of _reductio ad absurdum_ around here, i.e., people pretending to be stupid. Or maybe not.

I mean, I can agree with that at least.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/114 "2019-08-08T21:17:53Z")

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Sorry for the triple-post, but I think it’s worth pointing out that I’m not the only one who doesn’t love McConnell but finds Twitter’s reasoning specious. Look at that article I linked to:

> [@WaPo](#):
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> On Wednesday, Twitter froze the Senate majority leader’s campaign account for something that, on the surface, seems reasonable to post: a video of protesters issuing him death threats.  
> …  
> Now, to the extent he wants to, Trump can point to Twitter freezing a prominent account for the most prominent senator — for an admittedly perplexing reason — to make his case that social media companies apply the rules unfairly to conservatives.

IMO, Twitter ought to use this as an occasion to refine its rule. Obviously it’s an enormous problem to censor people who are reporting threats of violence. Imagine if the exact same scenario happened, except the video showed a cop shouting the same things at a cuffed suspect. It’d be terrible for Twitter to censor that.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/115 "2019-08-09T13:25:01Z")

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So, Moscow Mitch got suspended for posting a picture and whining about some newspaper putting HIS name on a gravestone?

But let’s see… He did that first, and Twitter initially let HIM get away with it. Twice apparently.

> **[Mitch McConnell campaign tweets image of tombstone with opponent’s name](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/05/mcconnell-mcgrath-tombstone-tweet-1448627)**
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> The tweet was shared as details of the El Paso shooting were still developing.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s campaign tweeted out a photo of satirical tombstones over the weekend, including one featuring an election opponent’s name, hours after the mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, that claimed the lives of 22 people.

The tombstones named Amy McGrath, his main Democratic opponent in the 2020 Senate race for Kentucky, as well as Judge Merrick Garland, whose nomination to the Supreme Court he blocked during the last year of Barack Obama’s presidency.

> <https://twitter.com/Team_Mitch/status/1157782112914890758/photo/1>

> <https://twitter.com/Team_Mitch/status/1150795345112305666>

So like I already said, fuck him and fuck Twitter.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/116 "2019-08-09T14:39:13Z")

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Trump has never been suspended, has he? I think Twitter is very inconsistent with their decisions.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/117 "2019-08-10T15:40:47Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Trump has never been suspended, has he? I think Twitter is very inconsistent with their decisions.

Yes they are. They seem to give an awful lot of leeway to pro-Trump trolls, people trying to spread propaganda, and to bots.

Anyway, I’m not even gonna bother appealing my suspension. Giving McConnell some shit was worth it.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/118 "2019-08-10T20:50:56Z")

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I don’t think I’m even gonna bother signing up. I don’t suppose “America-hating fuckstick” would fly very far.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/119 "2019-08-28T03:57:55Z")

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I searched for Mitch McConnell’s Facebook page purely for the purpose of calling him Moscow Mitch and raising his blood pressure by an incremental amount. I chose a post slamming Amy McGrath as a “radical left turn” for Kentucky. I figured my sentiments would be in the minority. I was pleasantly surprised that most of the comments lauded her, slammed him and “Moscow Mitch, Putin’s Bitch” was a recurring theme, if not an exact quote.  
He’s the biggest piece of shit in our government. Yes, bigger than Trump, because he’s consciously enabling Trump and all the damage he’s doing. And not just to our country but to the world with all the climate-change-denying horseshit.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitch-mcconnell-in-the-pit/837681/120 "2019-08-28T13:04:01Z")

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> …  
> He’s the biggest piece of shit in our government. Yes, bigger than Trump, because he’s consciously enabling Trump and all the damage he’s doing. And not just to our country but to the world with all the climate-change-denying horseshit.

Absolutely

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