# Mitt Romney would 'respect' Israel strike on Iran, aide says

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 29, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793 "2012-07-29T20:45:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/41 "2012-08-01T03:49:02Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> I do not think it would be Israel that is wiped off the map in the event of an Iran-Israeli nuclear conflict.

Bear in mind, Israel is no larger than New Jersey. Three or four nuke-strikes should be enough to wipe it out quite thoroughly. Of course, that would also kill all the Palestinians.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/42 "2012-08-01T04:47:42Z")

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Oh gods…not again!!! :eek: See, this is why I won’t vote for Romney. I can’t take another 4-8 years of frantic 'dopers wringing their hands and predicting that THIS time we are going to invade Iran for sure!

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/43 "2012-08-01T05:01:28Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I still haven’t figured out what for, though. 🙂

He deserves it now though.. 🙂

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/44 "2012-08-01T10:08:00Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> They may be happy having nuclear weapons to just wave around, or they may take their Prime Minister’s advice and wipe Israel off the map.

[Perhaps](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#.22Wiped_off_the_map.22_controversy)?

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/45 "2012-08-01T13:34:17Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> …or they may take their Prime Minister’s advice and wipe Israel off the map.

> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> [Perhaps](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#.22Wiped_off_the_map.22_controversy)?

Don’t bother. The translation error, actually misquote, has been known and discussed for years. No matter how often what Ahmadinejad actually said is expressed, those who have worked themselves into a lather over Iran continue to not only cling to and erroneously cite the misquote as real, but twist themselves into pretzels to defend it when corrected.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/46 "2012-08-01T13:40:51Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Don’t bother. The translation error, actually misquote, has been known and discussed for years. No matter how often what Ahmadinejad actually said is expressed, those who have worked themselves into a lather over Iran continue to not only cling to and erroneously cite the misquote as real, but twist themselves into pretzels to defend it when corrected.

Thanks for the translation. But this is supposed to make me feel better? 🙂

“the Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/47 "2012-08-01T14:05:58Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Thanks for the translation. But this is supposed to make me feel better? 🙂
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> “the Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”

I don’t have a position on whether or not the correct quote should make anyone feel better. However, I do believe it is important to be accurate, especially when imputing motives to a person or entity based, in no small measure, on something that was ostensibly explicitly expressed.

Saying a regime must vanish from the pages of time is quite a far cry from saying that an entire country must be wiped off the map, regardless of one’s position on whether or not Iran is planning, or in the process of, development of nuclear weapons.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/48 "2012-08-01T14:11:52Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Saying a regime must vanish from the pages of time is quite a far cry from saying that an entire country must be wiped off the map,

I disagree, both phrases being metaphors, but thanks again for the translation.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/49 "2012-08-01T14:20:57Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I disagree, both phrases being metaphors, but thanks again for the translation.

Google “Iraq” and “regime change.” It is not a metaphor, but neither is it a call to genocide or land-glassing.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/50 "2012-08-01T14:28:27Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Google “Iraq” and “regime change.” It is not a metaphor, but neither is it a call to genocide or land-glassing.

You lost me. Are we talking about a Romney excuse to attack Iran?

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/51 "2012-08-01T15:51:57Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I disagree, both phrases being metaphors, but thanks again for the translation.

Not to belabor the point, and in apology for the continued hijack of the thread, but who’s determined that one is a metaphor for the other? Did anyone in an official capacity in Iran say “Yes, of course the idiom ‘wipe from the map’ doesn’t exist in any of Iran’s recognized languages, but you know what Ahmadinejad really meant, wink, wink,” or are some of us simply projecting?

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/52 "2012-08-01T17:21:17Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Not to belabor the point, and in apology for the continued hijack of the thread, but who’s determined that one is a metaphor for the other?

I meant that neither is intended to be taken literally, not that one is a metaphor for the other.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/53 "2012-08-01T17:43:38Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Saying a regime must vanish from the pages of time is quite a far cry from saying that an entire country must be wiped off the map,

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I disagree, both phrases being metaphors, but thanks again for the translation.

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Google “Iraq” and “regime change.” It is not a metaphor, but neither is it a call to genocide or land-glassing.

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> You lost me. Are we talking about a Romney excuse to attack Iran?

I meant that “Saying a regime must vanish from the pages of time” is not a metaphor. Hyperbole, perhaps.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/54 "2012-08-01T18:57:09Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> I meant that “Saying a regime must vanish from the pages of time” is not a metaphor. Hyperbole, perhaps.

Okay, thanks again. 🙂

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/55 "2012-08-19T16:35:41Z")

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Israel does not need approval or support from Romney Obama or anyone else. They will protect their interests as any sovereign state should. Sorry to say it-for the no more wars crowd- but odds are an attack is coming in the next couple of months whether you want it or not.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/56 "2012-08-19T20:19:55Z")

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> [@TheSlapIsBack](#):
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> Israel does not need approval or support from Romney Obama or anyone else. They will protect their interests as any sovereign state should. Sorry to say it-for the no more wars crowd- but odds are an attack is coming in the next couple of months whether you want it or not.

This is true. And if Israel chooses to attack unilaterally, America, which is also a sovriegn state, is not in any way compelled to help them, or to help them avoid the consequences of the attack.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mitt-romney-would-respect-israel-strike-on-iran-aide-says/629793/57 "2012-08-19T21:06:05Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> This is true. And if Israel chooses to attack unilaterally, America, which is also a sovriegn state, is not in any way compelled to help them, or to help them avoid the consequences of the attack.

I imagine we will, though.

Let’s hope the testosterone poisoning will pass, and some agreement can be reached with Oran.

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