# Mittens blames all those po' folk **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 15, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049 "2012-11-15T00:51:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/81 "2012-11-15T18:04:09Z")
The message that I’m getting from this is “We lost the election because the majority of Americans suck” Why do you hate America Mr Romney? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/82 "2012-11-15T18:21:26Z")
The funny thing about it is that Romney essentially says “Obama won because more voters thought they would benefit and thrive under his policies” (which is pretty much how-to-win-an-election-in-one-statement), and then says “I ran a great campaign”. Good luck to the Republicans in blaming the voters for votings for who they thought they would benefit under most! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/83 "2012-11-15T18:30:29Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The funny thing about it is that Romney essentially says “Obama won because more voters thought they would benefit and thrive under his policies” (which is pretty much how-to-win-an-election-in-one-statement), and then says “I ran a great campaign”. Yeah, it’s bizarre. A whole bunch of people voted based on rational self-interest! Shocking! The collapse of the Republic is imminent! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/84 "2012-11-15T18:40:51Z")
Well, see, it’s bad because they only voted for him because he gave them stuff. Although that wasn’t a crime against democracy when Romney gave health care to his constituents in Massachusetts. His poorly-received NAACP visit looks a little different in hindsight, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/85 "2012-11-15T18:53:35Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > You mean big cities voted for the Democrats? :drops monocle into tea: I cannot stop laughing about this. Thanks for brightening my day! (yes, I know I’m a page or two late, but c’mon – this thread was only started yesterday!) ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/86 "2012-11-15T19:13:04Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > It does piss me off a little when I hear these jackasses talk about the poor colored folk who want handouts who were responsible for electing Obama. > > I’m white, middle-aged, middle-class, employed, insured and a damn fine consumer. And Republicans like to consider me a deadbeat. > > _Quite a few_ folks like me voted for Obama too. I’m in the same boat as you. White male, 42, married (to a female), one kid, household income \>$150K. They tell me I voted for Obama out of ‘white guilt’. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/87 "2012-11-15T19:16:18Z")
White Guilt my ass. I’m a 50 year old white guy and I voted for Obamacare (Diabetes is a helluva pre-existing condition) and against Mr. Big Tax Cuts For Me (and screw you proles). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/88 "2012-11-15T19:20:41Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > White Guilt my ass. I’m a 50 year old white guy and I voted for Obamacare (Diabetes is a helluva pre-existing condition) and against Mr. Big Tax Cuts For Me (and screw you proles). Well, I’m sure that Romney giving you shit for voting for his opponent, and telling you that you only voted for him to get "free stuff’ is really going to convince you to vote Republican next time. Right? I mean, that was a mature, convincing policy argument about why his ideas were superior coming from Mr. Romney. Bound to sway a lot of voters back. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/89 "2012-11-15T19:33:51Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > there has to be irony in that Mitt is essentially promoting natural selection but representing an ideology that denies evolution. Not quite: it’s prescient _artificial_ social selection, derived from the eternal wisdom of our sage superiors. You know, Malthus and Eysenck would approve. Nothing eugenicsy like Sanger, Stopes, Pearson, Beveridge or Mitchison advocated though. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/90 "2012-11-15T19:34:06Z")
He’s not trying to persuade voters anymore. He’s making excuses to donors. To put it another way, he’s not pretending to be relevant. It’s too bad that he comes off as such a dick, but in itself that’s not really a surprise. Compare Romney’s back-of-a-napkin concession speech and this stuff to John McCain’s and the result is pretty startling. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/91 "2012-11-15T19:36:17Z")
Look, if you feel like the government should supply healthcare I suggest you just move, buddy…to someplace like Massachusetts. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/92 "2012-11-15T19:59:28Z")
These types of statements from the Republicans help create an energized base–a base of people who will actively vote against the Republicans. At this point, I can’t see voting for any Republican even if I think he’s the best guy for the job. Even if he’s not drinking the tea, I don’t want the derp-brigade to gain any ground. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/93 "2012-11-15T20:07:57Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > \*\*ROVE’S TAKE:\*\*Then there are the conservative Super PACs, such as American Crossroads, a group I helped organize. Obama administration officials, liberal pundits and Democratic apparatchiks this past week have launched a coordinated attack designed to weaken support for conservative Super PACs. > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I don’t know whether to laugh or merely stare in slack-jawed amazement at Rove’s attempt to deflect blame away from the obvious reason (he pissed away eight-figure sums of money and got bupkis to show for it) his SuperPAC is likely to experience “weakened” support. So… unless I’m missing something, the coordinated attacks from Democratic apparatchiks is basically everyone pointing out how utterly useless and ineffective Rove and his SuperPAC was. I’m not surprised that Rove is trying to spin things around so that people still give him lots of their money. Sadly, I won’t really be surprised if the Republicans still do so. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/94 "2012-11-15T20:09:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Good luck to the Republicans in blaming the voters for votings for who they thought they would benefit under most! Only the elite are supposed to vote for what will benefit them most - the unwashed masses are supposed to vote for whom they are told to vote by [del]their masters[/del] the elite. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/95 "2012-11-15T20:14:48Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Look, if you feel like the government should supply healthcare I suggest you just move, buddy…to someplace like Massachusetts. Or even Indiana… which has a program of subsidized health insurance that has kept me and mine healthy for the past four years… _despite_ being a Red state with a Republican governor. (If anyone’s curious - my share is 5% of my monthly income. My spouse and I actually have separate policies, so if I acquire a job that covers me and not him he still has coverage at that same price. It’s not deluxe, but it covers pre-existing conditions, has a special program to help keep his diabetes under control, and we no longer have to worry about bankruptcy if I break a leg.) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/96 "2012-11-15T20:18:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, I’m sure that Romney giving you shit for voting for his opponent, and telling you that you only voted for him to get "free stuff’ is really going to convince you to vote Republican next time. > > Right? As I said (I think it was even in this thread); After his latest comments I really believe that America dodged a bullet with his failure to get elected. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/97 "2012-11-15T20:40:20Z")
The fact that he “blames” people for not voting for him just shows the arrogance and entitlement of the current Republican party and it’s followers. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/98 "2012-11-15T21:02:23Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It literally astounds me that people like him cannot seem to understand that a healthy workforce is a productive workforce, which in turn means a solid bottom line for their employers. When you’re sick, or your family is sick and you have to worry about how you’re going to pay the doctor bills, work tends to take second place. Sick or hungry kids make for poor students, and poor students don’t get very far, and our country suffers as a result. You want to cut medicare? Want to cut food stamps? Then make sure your citizenry is healthy and educated, and the problem will eventually fix itself in large part. Obama (and anybody with a brain) is in it for the long game, not the short political gain. I’ve only read this far in the thread, but I’ve been saying this for years. The Right are penny wise and pound foolish. They seek to cut pennies from ‘entitlements’ with no regard to the multifold return on investing in them. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/99 "2012-11-15T21:17:49Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > It does piss me off a little when I hear these jackasses talk about the poor colored folk who want handouts who were responsible for electing Obama. > > I’m white, middle-aged, middle-class, employed, insured and a damn fine consumer. And Republicans like to consider me a deadbeat. > > _Quite a few_ folks like me voted for Obama too. I’m white, over 55, and the only thing I’d like to give Romney is a punch in his smug snoot. And we see that when he recanted his 47% comment and said he was for all the people he was lying. Again. That bartender deserves a Medal of Freedom. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/100 "2012-11-15T21:22:15Z")
About two months before the election there was an article in some on-line business mag decrying how Insurance was getting twisted and co-opted by all these entitlement demands. How paying for preventative care and exams had nothing to with with the real purpose of insurance, which was to pay for disasters, and it would be a lot cheaper for all of us if we went back to that model instead of paying for all of this stuff people should be paying for themselves. Same thinking. Penny wise, pound foolish. Completely failing to understand that preventative maintenance reduces illnesses and major payouts and is ultimately cheaper in the long run. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049.md?page=6)