# Mittens blames all those po' folk

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 15, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049 "2012-11-15T00:51:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/121 "2012-11-16T03:08:37Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I hereby propose that he henceforth be known as;
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> **C. MontRomney Burns**

I think if Mitch Romney remains relevant to anyone—under whatever name you want to call him—for even fifteen more days, you’ll be doing him a great and undeserved favor.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/122 "2012-11-16T03:08:40Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> No. Never. Of course not. It’s because of…_Shenanigans_

Are there shamrocks? Is House Of Pain involved at all? Those guys freakin’ rocked. [Cite](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXwtHJQ66Rk).

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/123 "2012-11-16T04:16:51Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> This is a socialist-Kenyan who can get things DONE!

That John Maynard Kenyan sure knew his economics, didn’t he? 😉

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/124 "2012-11-16T05:24:23Z")

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Deleted-phone post came out as random gibberish.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/125 "2012-11-16T05:41:52Z")

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> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#):
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> I think if Mitch Romney remains relevant to anyone—under whatever name you want to call him—for even fifteen more days, you’ll be doing him a great and undeserved favor.

You’re already forgetting his first name! (Well, middle name, actually). That’s a great start on forgetting him altogether. Won’t be long now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/126 "2012-11-16T05:44:40Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Say what you will about Dubya, but at least he had the sense to shut up and drop out of sight when his time on the national stage was up.

Good point. That guy looks almost classy these days. Of course, when he was president, we realized how classy his Dad had been compared to him. And when HW was prez…I was gonna say he made Nixon look classy, but no.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/127 "2012-11-16T07:58:12Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Say what you will about Dubya, but at least he had the sense to shut up and drop out of sight when his time on the national stage was up.

Well, the Republicans told him this year that the convention was in Anchorage. Just to be safe.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/128 "2012-11-16T12:09:34Z")

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The part that gets me is the assumption that all these Pubbies now vigorously protesting Romney’s obvious disdain for most of the voters were, only last week, his supporters and presumably his voters. Do you suppose that Bobby Jindal was thinking, “No, I just can’t vote for a jerk like Romney, he’s obviously the wrong guy for my party, he’s going to take us in a very bad direction on many issues, like immigration reform and tax policy for the uber-wealthy, and I don’t want my party to go there”? No, he was out encouraging people to vote for (and presumably voting himself for) this guy he’s now denouncing in public for taking his party in the wrong direction. Well, that was the same direction it is now on November 5th.

I’d have a shred of compassion if he’d broken with Romney BEFORE the election, but this new-found set of principles just seems like cynical pragmatism to me, “Hey, a majority of voters said they didn’t like the shit we were peddling, so let’s find out what kind of shit they want, and let’s do a better job of pretending to care what they think.”

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/129 "2012-11-16T12:29:56Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> I’d have a shred of compassion if he’d broken with Romney BEFORE the election, but this new-found set of principles just seems like cynical pragmatism to me, “Hey, a majority of voters said they didn’t like the shit we were peddling, so let’s find out what kind of shit they want, and let’s do a better job of pretending to care what they think.”

This, but for the whole GOP. Who is going to believe these new found beliefs? And how do the severe conservatives/tea party types feel about their issues being thrown under the bus?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/130 "2012-11-16T12:44:46Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> No. Never. Of course not. It’s because of…_Shenanigans_

Putz: Vot iss _shenanigans_?

Leroy: It means _je ne se quois_. It means “I do not know what.”  
Oddly appropriate. Points if you can identify where that comes from.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/131 "2012-11-16T13:25:22Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Putz: Vot iss _shenanigans_?
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> Leroy: It means _je ne se quois_. It means “I do not know what.”  
> Oddly appropriate. Points if you can identify where that comes from.

I tried the lazy man’s method and googled “Leroy Putz” and amazingly came up with a series of links to sites in Polish, I think, including [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NILlP5I3Ws) video of a man, possibly named Leroy Putz, doing something to a ceiling with a machine that makes an incredibly unpleasant noise. (Totally SFW, just incredibly irritating to listen to. It’s like the background noise I expect to hear eternally in Hell, if I am wrong about religion and all the SDers who argue with me are correct on that subject.) Lower your volume before clicking.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/132 "2012-11-16T13:41:43Z")

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Interesting, but no cigar.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/133 "2012-11-16T13:47:24Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Interesting, but no cigar.

Okay, it’s from “A Martian Odyssey” by Stanley Grauman Weinbaum.

I really want that cigar.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/134 "2012-11-16T13:59:33Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> The part that gets me is the assumption that all these Pubbies now vigorously protesting Romney’s obvious disdain for most of the voters were, only last week, his supporters and presumably his voters.

Hell, most of them were defending Romney after his 47% remarks went public. “Well, maybe he didn’t say it the best way but he’s totally right and it’s great that we’re having this conversation!”

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/135 "2012-11-16T15:21:57Z")

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Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/136 "2012-11-16T15:29:16Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Okay, it’s from “A Martian Odyssey” by Stanley Grauman Weinbaum.
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> I really want that cigar.

Okay. You get a Point Cigar

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/137 "2012-11-16T15:59:17Z")

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So let me get this straight.

The Romney/Ryan message was “Hey poor people who get government assistance, YOU are what is wrong with America, we are going to take that stuff away from you so we can buy more submarines and give tax breaks to the rich. We think you can become millionaires but if you don’t, fuck you.”

And he is somehow surprised that these people didn’t vote for him?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/138 "2012-11-16T16:25:42Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> So let me get this straight.
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> The Romney/Ryan message was “Hey poor people who get government assistance, YOU are what is wrong with America, we are going to take that stuff away from you so we can buy more submarines and give tax breaks to the rich. We think you can become millionaires but if you don’t, fuck you.”
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> And he is somehow surprised that these people didn’t vote for him?

Not just poor people! Middle class people, too.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mittens-blames-all-those-po-folk/641049/139 "2012-11-16T16:34:02Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> These types of statements from the Republicans help create an energized base–a base of people who will actively vote against the Republicans. At this point, I can’t see voting for any Republican even if I think he’s the best guy for the job. Even if he’s not drinking the tea, I don’t want the derp-brigade to gain any ground.

Bingo. White over-60 female small business owner here, enthusiastic Obama supporter, and I voted to return my Dem Congressman to office, even though he’s got scandal issues and his GOP opponent is a sensible-sounding Massachusetts-moderate openly gay man. Too bad, Tisei; another time I could have split my vote, but as long as the House is under the crazies’ control, it won’t happen.

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