# Mixing the sexes causes nothing but chaos and confusion **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 17, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635 "2020-03-17T09:30:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/1 "2020-03-17T09:30:41Z")
The modern world likes to pretend that males and females are interchangeable, which has led us to an androgynous and hyper confused society regarding the sexes. From antiquity, up until 60 or 70 years ago, men and women had separate spaces, separate roles, and separate societal functions. Clearly people understood that this was the best formula for social stability. In present times we have men and women side by side in the streets, offices, schools, professions, workplaces, sports, politics, now even military life. Basic training in the military is completely co-ed- the Marine Corp is the one military branch I’m aware of that makes any attempt to separate the sexes during initial entry training. Imo, this wanton gender integration has led to societal chaos, confusion, dissolution, and hysteria ( ie the “me too” witch hunt). The relationship between the sexes are completely insane and disharmonius. Because we think that males and get females are interchangeable, we raise them the same with disastrous results. I’ve noticed that this generation of young men and boys are becoming weaker and more feminized. This generation of young women and girls are becoming more and more hysterical and emotionally unbalanced. In reality, males and females are no more interchangeable than dogs and cats. IMHO, to have a stable and orderly society, men and women should have separate roles, functions, and spaces, and unless they are married or related, should not really be “intermingling” in large capacity. Fight me. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/2 "2020-03-17T10:11:08Z")
This “stable and orderly” society you speak of tolerated nigh-ubiquitous sexual assault and rape of women and girls. Maybe “stable and orderly” for men (especially powerful and wealthy men!), but not so much for others. I reject this state of affairs and am glad we’ve made some progress, even if it’s not nearly enough. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/3 "2020-03-17T10:33:57Z")
I have provided [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22194540) for those who don’t want to rack up a warning in this one. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/4 "2020-03-17T10:43:02Z")
“Master and slave” is not a desirable way of arranging society, which is for all practical purposes the social order you are championing. Speaking of which: > [@Marcus\_Flavius](#): > > Imo, this wanton gender integration has led to societal chaos, confusion, dissolution, and hysteria ( ie the “me too” witch hunt). In other words, if a man want to attack a woman she should just shut up and submit, just like _tradition_ demands. He’s a master, she’s a slave and has no rights. ---
**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/5 "2020-03-17T10:43:32Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I have provided [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22194540) for those who don’t want to rack up a warning in this one. Very succinct, I offer a golf clap in your honor. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/6 "2020-03-17T10:58:16Z")
Substitute “races” for “sexes” In the OP, maybe that will help clear up why it’s so wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/7 "2020-03-17T11:13:14Z")
> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#): > > Imo, this wanton gender integration has led to societal chaos, confusion, dissolution, and hysteria ( ie the “me too” witch hunt). Ah, so it’s _society’s_ fault that women don’t like being the target of sexual predation. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/8 "2020-03-17T11:33:41Z")
Shouldn’t you be hibernating right now? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/9 "2020-03-17T11:36:00Z")
> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#): > > Fight me. If this separation made you the second class citizen, with reduced mobility, education, career options, earning potential… if you were the one in danger of being abused and taken advantage of… you’d be a massive crybaby complaining about the unfairness of it all. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/10 "2020-03-17T11:45:01Z")
This is going well. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/11 "2020-03-17T12:29:00Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I have provided [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22194540) for those who don’t want to rack up a warning in this one. Bravo. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/12 "2020-03-17T12:34:35Z")
“Fight me.” As the Dope’s tagline says, “It’s taking longer than we thought.” ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/13 "2020-03-17T12:39:10Z")
Excuse me, Mr. Flavius, but without a certain amount of mixing of the sexes there’s not going to be chaos, confusion, or any other human experience to complain about. Be that as it may, did you have in mind allocating one sex to the eastern hemisphere and one to the western, or were you thinking more in terms of northern versus southern? Or perhaps you had visualized more of a Valerie Solanas final-solution kind of thingie? ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/14 "2020-03-17T12:39:47Z")
OP, if it’s your position that you think you should be limited to some prescribed roles, functions, and spaces, what do you need our approval for? Can’t you just do it yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/15 "2020-03-17T13:04:46Z")
If you claim that everything is meaningless and nothing matters, you don’t also get to argue that “mixing the sexes” matters. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/16 "2020-03-17T13:06:29Z")
Jordan? ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Flavius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Marcus\_Flavius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marcus_Flavius)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/17 "2020-03-17T13:14:11Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > If you claim that everything is meaningless and nothing matters, you don’t also get to argue that “mixing the sexes” matters. “Everything is meaningless and nothing matters” is not what I believe and I’ve never said that. In fact, our culture of “everything goes and nothing matters” is why our society is in the debased state it’s in. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/18 "2020-03-17T13:18:26Z")
Just for the record , the OP here who laments the days of manly men, thinks [mommy and daddy owe you room and board for your entire life](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=855296). ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/19 "2020-03-17T13:31:15Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > This is going well. It appears to be going exactly as the OP wanted, based on his previous threads of this nature. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635/20 "2020-03-17T13:45:32Z")
Wait, if you’re trying to keep the genders separated, why would you have a widespread exception? (“Unless they are married”) That’s just asking for trouble. I’ll bet Marcky Marc agrees it’d be better to just Do The Deed, take off and leave her to raise the anklebiters… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mixing-the-sexes-causes-nothing-but-chaos-and-confusion/849635.md?page=2)