# MLB 2021 Playoffs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [October 5, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930 "2021-10-05T13:47:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/321 "2021-10-25T20:53:52Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> (It’s also quite possible for a home run - even the run scored by the batter - to be unearned.)

How? I know baseball stats can get into the weeds, but this is bending my brain. (I know that the inherited runners are charged to who ever let them get on base.)

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/322 "2021-10-25T20:57:07Z")

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Two outs, the batter hits a routine grounder and the fielder muffs it for an error. Next guy up hits a HR. Both runs are unearned because there should have already been 3 outs in the inning.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/323 "2021-10-25T20:58:19Z")

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Damnit, I think I knew that at some point in the past. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/324 "2021-10-26T17:52:51Z")

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So…no comment on Game 6 of the NLCS? Matzek coming in with no outs and the tying runs on base, and striking out the side isn’t noteworthy? Getting four SOs in 12 pitches? Braves going to the Fall Classic for the first time since 1999?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/325 "2021-10-26T18:45:28Z")

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Has anyone in Atlanta noticed?

When I lived in Atlanta in the 1990s they were winning (I think) ten division titles in a row. And we still couldn’t give away Braves tickets. And I mean that literally. Our Sales Department had a box and dozens of tickets for each game and most of them were given away free at the reception desk to employees or even employees of other tenants of the building because none of the customers could be arsed to take them. And there’d still be some left over every day.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/326 "2021-10-26T20:06:48Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Has anyone in Atlanta noticed?

[Apparently yes](https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2021/10/05/atlanta-braves-truist-park-2021-attendance.html) and apparently reasonably good (with some average-ish years) since the [early 90s](https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/attend.shtml)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/327 "2021-10-27T02:43:06Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Has anyone in Atlanta noticed?

At least in the 90s the Atlanta Braves played in Atlanta.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/328 "2021-10-27T03:29:45Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> > Has anyone in Atlanta noticed?
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> At least in the 90s the Atlanta Braves played in Atlanta

Ha, yes. The club claimed they were moving because of the difficulties getting to Turner Field. Then moved to the part of town that is notorious for traffic delays. And also can’t be reached on MARTA.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/329 "2021-10-27T04:37:10Z")

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Braves win Game 1.

Jorge Soler is the first player to ever start a World Series with a home run.

Charlie Morton broke his leg, so Atlanta will need someone else to start Game 5, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![Hellestal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Hellestal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hellestal)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/330 "2021-10-27T11:16:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Jorge Soler is the first player to ever start a World Series with a home run.

Didn’t Alcides Escobar start the 2015 series with an inside-the-parker…?

…oh that was the first pitch of the [BOTTOM of the 1st](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8fvFc0GJuw).

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/331 "2021-10-27T14:32:10Z")

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Though of course that was incredibly cool.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/332 "2021-10-27T15:28:51Z")

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Braves in 7.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/333 "2021-10-27T18:55:08Z")

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I’m still rooting for Dusty and the Astros but, damn those Braves look strong.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/334 "2021-10-28T00:39:27Z")

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According to the Elias Sports Bureau, tonight’s game marks the first time since 1906 that the home team took a 1-0 lead in the bottom of the first inning of a World Series game 2, scored following a double by a player 5’6 or less after his team’s pitcher struck out the side in the top half of the inning but gave up two hits, and then surrendered a tying home run in the next inning.

Astros odds to win: 61.3% - 50.9% - 51.7%.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/335 "2021-10-28T10:48:21Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Ha, yes. The club claimed they were moving because of the difficulties getting to Turner Field. Then moved to the part of town that is notorious for traffic delays. And also can’t be reached on MARTA.

This has been hashed to death in other places, but they moved where their season ticket holders were. The heat map was clearly centered on that area. And they don’t seem to have had any problems drawing fans. When at Ted Turner, they saw declining attendance and had dropped to 24-25k/game in bottom half of the league (22nd-24th). Since the move they are consistently above 30k//game and in the usually right around 12th or 13th - back where they had been until the decline. Source:

> **[2019 MLB Attendance - Major League Baseball - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance/_/year/2019)**
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> Check out this 2019 report of MLB attendance sortable by both baseball stadium and team.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/336 "2021-10-30T03:02:06Z")

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Game 3 tonight, and Atlanta pitching has yet to give up a hit to the Astros, through seven innings.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/337 "2021-10-30T03:21:24Z")

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I love low-scoring pitching duels.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/338 "2021-10-30T03:25:22Z")

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You jinxed it!

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/339 "2021-10-30T05:23:59Z")

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Still, a combined 2-hitter. Impressive.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2021-playoffs/951930/340 "2021-10-31T05:28:22Z")

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And Atlanta pushes Houston to the edge.

The Braves remind me of the 2006 Cardinals.

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