# MLB: 2025 Postseason

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [September 29, 2025, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478 "2025-09-29T12:49:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 31

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/601 "2025-10-20T19:06:32Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> It’s no longer relevant at all, because this series isn’t 2-0, it’s 3-3. The odds are now coin flip.

I’d argue that with it being a home game for Toronto, it’s not even a coin flip. The Jays have to be favored at least a bit. The ability to have a walk off is a solid advantage, if nothing else.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/602 "2025-10-20T19:08:37Z")

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Perhaps, but the Mariners won the first two games in Toronto, so I’m thinking “coin flip”.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/603 "2025-10-20T19:09:07Z")

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Until last night, I was telling myself, “Seattle hasn’t lost in Toronto yet, no reason for them to start now.”

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/604 "2025-10-20T19:20:51Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I was in high school when that happened and it crushed me. I still remember Dikembe Mutombo laying on the court, clutching the basketball and crying as the camera zoomed in on him at the conclusion of the last game. It haunts me every time I’m reminded of it.
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> Like I am now.

I lived a block away from the arena that year. Didn’t have any money for tickets, but liked to go hang out for the atmosphere. The streets were like a morgue.

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**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/605 "2025-10-20T19:46:19Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> In fairness, a batter can’t purposefully avoid a double play. You can only aim your hitting so much. If the ball is hit to the SS who then throws to 2B who then throws to 1B, that’s just where the chips fall.

Technically a batter can avoid a double play by never swinging but it doesn’t help.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/606 "2025-10-20T19:54:58Z")

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Runner on second. Dropped third strike. Tag the batter. Throw to third and the third baseman tagging the runner who was a little slow. Double play?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/607 "2025-10-20T20:03:33Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Double play?

Technically, yes, as two outs were recorded. It would be a strikeout and a caught stealing, I think.

But it’s not a GIDP (Grounded Into Double Play), a statistic recorded in the box score.

Same with a caught fly ball and the runner is thrown out trying to advance a base. A double play, but not a GIDP.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/608 "2025-10-20T21:04:47Z")

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In this series (I believe the last game in Seattle, that the Mariners won), a batter hit a fair ball that just dropped in front of the plate. Tiny little blooper. Bases were loaded with one out. Cal Raleigh (catcher, naturally) quickly snatched up the ball, tagged home plate (which forced the out from the 3rd base runner) then tossed the ball to first base, also getting out the batter before he could reach first base.

A weird double play, but still a double play. I even think that counts as GIDP, because that was certainly a grounder (probably the groundiest grounder ever, just falling on the ground a foot in front of the plate).

Here’s a video of the weird play.

[https://packaged-media.redd.it/rktjbeuz8rvf1/pb/m2-res\_720p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1761004800&s=54d45bb972000a85d347118a895794896f839faf](https://packaged-media.redd.it/rktjbeuz8rvf1/pb/m2-res_720p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1761004800&s=54d45bb972000a85d347118a895794896f839faf)

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/609 "2025-10-20T21:39:37Z")

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I saw a stat that a 2-3 double play has only happened twice in postseason history. The first time was also the Mariners, and the catcher was Dan Wilson, now the Mariners manager.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/610 "2025-10-20T22:16:17Z")

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Very quick reaction to get to the ball before it rolled foul back across the plate, keeping the ball live and making the play possible.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/611 "2025-10-20T23:07:00Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Does it make me a crotchety old purist that I still hate the idea of interleague play, just on principle?

Does it make me a crotchety old purist that I still hate that the NL has the DH?

> [@Velocity](#):
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> I’d imagine that when the Seahawks trailed the Patriots by four points but were near the New England goal line, their odds of winning the game were also around 85%.

If they handed it off to Beast Mode, that percentage is really around 99%. One of my favorite YouTubes is that of Pete Carroll shouting, “OH NO!”

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/612 "2025-10-20T23:09:25Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> Does it make me a crotchety old purist that I still hate that the NL has the DH?

(fist bump)

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/613 "2025-10-21T00:23:38Z")

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What happens here?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/614 "2025-10-21T01:33:23Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I even think that counts as GIDP

Yes, it does.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/615 "2025-10-21T01:41:31Z")

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Cal Raleigh is freaking unreal.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/616 "2025-10-21T01:41:48Z")

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The 8-6-2 off-the-wall play in game one of the NLCS was technically a GIDP.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/617 "2025-10-21T01:49:08Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> The 8-6-2 off-the-wall play in game one of the NLCS was technically a GIDP

No. It was a fly ball that caromed off the fielder’s glove to the wall, bounced to the ground, and was then fielded by the outfielder. No ground ball involved.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/618 "2025-10-21T02:11:50Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> It was a fly ball that caromed off the fielder’s glove to the wall, bounced to the ground

It did not touch the ground, even on the throw to the cut off or the catcher. Even still, it was ruled a GIDP.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/619 "2025-10-21T02:12:32Z")

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Not to jinx the Mariners, but how much do World Series tickets cost?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-2025-postseason/1023478/620 "2025-10-21T02:17:49Z")

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3 innings away from MLB becoming the first of the 4 major leagues to have every single team appear in a championship game/series.

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