# MLB: August 2010

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 1, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796 "2010-08-01T15:34:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/101 "2010-08-12T16:29:25Z")

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> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> And right fielder Jeff Francoeur is unhappy with his playing time and wants to go to a team where he will start every day.

They should fulfill his request, and send him down to the Minors. 🙂 Even the outfielders for the miserable Orioles are hitting better than Francoeur this year.

And those “miserable” Orioles are now 8-1 since Buck Showalter took over.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/102 "2010-08-12T16:35:30Z")

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The St. Louis stations are reporting (haven’t seen it teh web yet) that LaRussa and Baker both received two-game suspensions for the brawl, and that Cueto got a seven-game (two start) suspension. Meanwhile the Cardinals called up a minor league catcher for insurance because LaRue also got kicked in the ribs.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/103 "2010-08-12T16:35:34Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> > [@BlankSlate](#):
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> > Man that was exciting. The lead off triple against Rivera by Andrus…I was sure it was going to extras or a loss for the Yanks.
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> > Neither team made an error. 😕
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> Oh I was talking about the wild pitch and the fly ball that got between Hamilton and Cruz because no one took control. I know those aren’t defined as errors, but I consider them such. Also, all the walks. Agravating game. :mad:

Not an error, but the Yanks blew that rundown between home and third. The announcers reefed on A-Rod for it but I blame Jorge Posada. His throw to third was late (not due to A-Rod being momentarily in his way) and he triple-clutched the ball before arcing it lazily to Jeter at third.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/104 "2010-08-12T16:41:16Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> The St. Louis stations are reporting (haven’t seen it teh web yet) that LaRussa and Baker both received two-game suspensions for the brawl, and that Cueto got a seven-game (two start) suspension. Meanwhile the Cardinals called up a minor league catcher for insurance because LaRue also got kicked in the ribs.

7 days isn’t a 2 start suspension, it is just having 1 starts pushed back a few days. Appeal, wait until just after a cueto start and drop the appeal.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/105 "2010-08-12T17:16:57Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> And those “miserable” Orioles are now 8-1 since Buck Showalter took over.

I heard a quote from one of them that was roughly, “We’re afraid to lose.”

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Not an error, but the Yanks blew that rundown between home and third. The announcers reefed on A-Rod for it but I blame Jorge Posada. His throw to third was late (not due to A-Rod being momentarily in his way) and he triple-clutched the ball before arcing it lazily to Jeter at third.

I agree, that was more on Jorge than A-Rod.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/106 "2010-08-12T18:05:29Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> The St. Louis stations are reporting (haven’t seen it teh web yet) that LaRussa and Baker both received two-game suspensions for the brawl, and that Cueto got a seven-game (two start) suspension. Meanwhile the Cardinals called up a minor league catcher for insurance because LaRue also got kicked in the ribs.

Yes, it’s [on mlb.com](http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100812&content_id=13365410&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb). They’re also fining those guys plus Phillips, Molina, Carpenter, and (apparently for coming onto the field while on the DL) Russ Springer.

As for La Russa and Baker, I’m guessing at least one of them went into the brawl trying to get ejected, thinking, “Somebody’s going to get tossed out after all this—better me than one of my key players.”

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/107 "2010-08-12T21:35:28Z")

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Cueto will only miss his next start. I want LaRussa and Baker to duke it out. There’s no love lost between those two.

Hopefully the Redlegs will forget this series and plod onward, racking up as many wins as possible. We only face the Cards again one more time I believe, and the schedule starts tipping in our favor come September.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/108 "2010-08-12T23:55:41Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> We only face the Cards again one more time I believe

…unless the NL wild card comes from the Central division

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/109 "2010-08-12T23:59:38Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> > We only face the Cards again one more time I believe
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> …unless the NL wild card comes from the Central division

The wildcard doesn’t play its own division winner, does it? I don’t think so but am ready to be proven wrong. I suppose it doesn’t matter whom wins the division. If the Reds get the wildcard, they will play either the Padres or Braves in the 1st round, not the Cards. Unless I’m somehow off base here. Heh. “Off base”. Baseball humor.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/110 "2010-08-13T00:56:42Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > …unless the NL wild card comes from the Central division
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> The wildcard doesn’t play its own division winner, does it? I don’t think so but am ready to be proven wrong.

No, you’;re right; the wild card may not play the winner of its own division in the first round.

If the wild card comes from the same division as the team with the best record in the league (which seems to happen a lot) then the wild card plays the division winner with the second best record.

If the season ended right now both leagues would face this situation. Tampa Bay would play Texas in the first round, not New York. San Francisco would play Atlanta, not San Diego.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/111 "2010-08-13T02:24:08Z")

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Just got home from Petco Park, where i watched the Padres complete a 3-game sweep of the Pirates.

Jon Garland gave up a single hit through 6 innings, but his pitch count was high enough (on account of walks and some deep counts) that there was no point in letting him stay in any longer.

All the Padres’ runs were driven in by their new acquisitions. Miguel Tejada started the scoring with an RBI double, and after Adrian Gonzalez reached base on an error, Ryan Ludwick cracked a two-run homer.

Lovely afternoon at the ballpark, too. Perfect weather, as usual around here.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/112 "2010-08-13T02:48:23Z")

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The Dodgers’ season was just summed up in two innings. Well, I guess 1+ innings, since they didn’t record an out in the 9th.

Someone wake me up for Opening Day 2011.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/113 "2010-08-13T03:44:38Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> f the wild card comes from the same division as the team with the best record in the league (which seems to happen a lot) then the wild card plays the division winner with the second best record.

Which is why my AL West winner always ends up playing the Yankees or the Red Sox in the first round :mad:

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/114 "2010-08-13T17:59:46Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > …unless the NL wild card comes from the Central division
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> The wildcard doesn’t play its own division winner, does it? I don’t think so but am ready to be proven wrong. I suppose it doesn’t matter whom wins the division. If the Reds get the wildcard, they will play either the Padres or Braves in the 1st round, not the Cards. Unless I’m somehow off base here. Heh. “Off base”. Baseball humor.

Maybe not in the first round, but the league championship series could be (and sometimes has been) between teams from the same division.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/115 "2010-08-13T18:55:07Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> The Dodgers’ season was just summed up in two innings. Well, I guess 1+ innings, since they didn’t record an out in the 9th.
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> Someone wake me up for Opening Day 2011.

Yep. That’s why we have tickets at Petco on Sept. 4th. At least _one_ of our teams is playing above AA.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/116 "2010-08-13T19:53:01Z")

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My Padres are visiting SF but it’s a big work-around-the-house weekend, so I’m not going to be able to go see a game. Still, I hope they keep this up–their last 3 games of the season are back here in SF so I’m hoping I’ll be able to see them as they’re on the doorstep of winning the division. Whoop! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/117 "2010-08-13T21:46:34Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> > [@Asimovian](#):
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> > The Dodgers’ season was just summed up in two innings. Well, I guess 1+ innings, since they didn’t record an out in the 9th.
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> > Someone wake me up for Opening Day 2011.
> 
> Yep. That’s why we have tickets at Petco on Sept. 4th. At least _one_ of our teams is playing above AA.

Wait…you’re a PADRES fan?

Dude, it’s like I don’t even KNOW you anymore…

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/118 "2010-08-13T23:35:22Z")

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Me: born and bred Dodger fan  
Wife: born and bred Red Sox fan  
Us: Padres all the way.

I consider it a moral victory to get her to root for a NL team in any way. (I won’t mention that the reason she likes the Padres is that she digs the mascot.)

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/119 "2010-08-14T02:53:24Z")

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The Texas Rangers, in first place, have **reduced** the cost of parking and concession items at Rangers Ballpark. The first day of this is the opening of a sold out series against the Red Sox.

OK, that’s class.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2010/548796/120 "2010-08-14T03:02:05Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The Texas Rangers, in first place, have **reduced** the cost of parking and concession items at Rangers Ballpark. The first day of this is the opening of a sold out series against the Red Sox.
> 
> OK, that’s class.

They are also my early favorite to win the WS…

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