# MLB: August 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [August 2, 2023, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980 "2023-08-02T21:43:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/41 "2023-08-10T01:42:57Z")
And, in _today’s_ Nats-Phillies game, Phillies pitcher Michael Lorenzen threw a no-hitter. It was only Lorenzen’s second outing for Philadelphia, after having been acquired from the Tigers last week, and the fourth no-hitter of the season, to date. > **[Phils' Lorenzen no-hits Nats for MLB's 4th of 2023](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38164331/phillies-michael-lorenzen-throws-no-hitter-vs-nationals)** > > Michael Lorenzen threw the 14th no-hitter in Phillies history, a dazzling performance in only his second start with his new team, which beat the Nationals 7-0 on Wednesday night. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/42 "2023-08-10T03:32:27Z")
The Fenway Park scoreboard played some impressive defense tonight. > **[A baseball landed in a scoreboard light on Fenway Park’s Green Monster and...](https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/boston-red-sox-green-wall-caught-ball-light-broke-mlb)** > > So…what just happened at Fenway Park? The batted ball landed inside the light. This article says it was a foul ball, but in looking at the play-by-play, it was ruled a ground-rule double, and probably cost the Royals a run in a game they lost 4-3. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/43 "2023-08-10T04:22:28Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > And, in _today’s_ Nats-Phillies game, Phillies pitcher Michael Lorenzen threw a no-hitter. I read somewhere that it was the first time the Nats had been on the receiving end of a no-hitter. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/44 "2023-08-10T17:05:26Z")
That’s correct. The franchise’s last being-no-hit game was when David Cone pitched a perfect game against the Expos. It’s odd; the Phillies have had14 no hitters pitched for them, including two perfect games, a no hitter in a playoff game, and a no hitter where the pitcher also hit two home runs. So they get a no hitter every ten years. The Padres have had one no hitter in over half a century, and the Rays, Blue Jays, and Rockies have add had just one is decades of play. I don’t think the Phillies are a great example of a perennial winner, though. BY FAR the record for a franchise is 26, held by the Dodgers. The original-16 franchise with the fewest is the Pirates, with 6. The expansion team with the most is Houston, with 16. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/45 "2023-08-10T17:35:23Z")
Four of Houston’s 16 no-hitters were by committee, and thus meaningless. Why are those even counted? ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/46 "2023-08-10T20:42:33Z")
The Cubs have only been victims of a no-hitter once since Sandy Koufax’s perfect game against them in 1965. Cole Hamels no-hit them in 2015. In fact, there was a 36-year period (Sept. 1972- Sept. 2008) in which the Cubs were not involved in any no-hitters at all, either on the giving or receiving end. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/47 "2023-08-10T23:12:46Z")
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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/48 "2023-08-11T04:22:00Z")
contuining a discussions from last months MLB thread > [@MLB: July 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2023/986430/160): > > Any indication that any non-Dodgers team has any serious chance of getting Ohtani in the offseason? Hopefully not… although my favorite uncle who’s an Angels fan (I forgive him since he grew up and lives in the OC) swears since that he’s Japanese their famed corporate/employer loyalty will kick in and he’ll stay with the angles ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/49 "2023-08-11T06:16:57Z")
This is probably an easy answer, but has any other pitcher ever gone on to play for a team that he’d no-hit before? Hamels did it in 2015, then played for the Cubs in 2018. Any other examples? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/50 "2023-08-11T15:48:28Z")
> [@MLB: July 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2023/986430/160): > > Any indication that any non-Dodgers team has any serious chance of getting Ohtani in the offseason? Doesn’t seem like it. His criteria appear to still just be “West coast, winner” which rules out pretty much everyone except the Dodgers, Giants, and maybe Seattle. The Padres would have to like double their already ridiculous payroll, or gut the team (which might not be a bad thing, considering how it’s gone), so that’s probably not happening. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/51 "2023-08-11T17:12:23Z")
Rube Marquard threw one for the New York Giants against Brooklyn in April 1915, and was then picked up off waivers by Brooklyn that August. Allie Reynolds pitched for Cleveland and then threw one against Cleveland when he was a Yankee. Does that count? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/52 "2023-08-11T20:19:34Z")
Max Scherzer no-hit the Mets in 2015. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/53 "2023-08-12T03:19:44Z")
Rough outing for the Mets today in their 7-0 loss to the Braves: [![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/853831517344497664/1139758950791794768/facebook_1691809861947_7095964871207384105.jpg) ](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/853831517344497664/1139758950791794768/facebook_1691809861947_7095964871207384105.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/54 "2023-08-12T15:19:04Z")
Wow whatever’s going on with Alec Manoah _suuuuucks_. 2nd in Cy Young voting last year with a 2.24 ERA. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/55 "2023-08-12T15:33:51Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Wow whatever’s going on with Alec Manoah _suuuuucks_. The Jays sent him back down to the minors yesterday, for the second time this season. Various articles I’m reading indicate nothing about an injury or anything like that, just that he seems to be struggling with his delivery. > **[Blue Jays’ Alek Manoah optioned to minors for second time this season](https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb-blue-jays-alek-manoah-optioned-minors-triple-a-buffalo-for-second-time-this-season-194325149.html)** > > Manoah struggled in his most recent outing in Cleveland before he was demoted to Triple-A Buffalo on Friday. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/56 "2023-08-12T23:48:37Z")
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/57 "2023-08-13T00:35:02Z")
Reds/Pirates rained out today. Is this a traditional doubleheader for tomorrow? Sure looks like it. I’ve been watching the Reds more this season. Looks like a fun afternoon if it is a traditional double header especially for this those lucky enough to have bought tickets in advance for Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/58 "2023-08-13T03:49:21Z")
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/59 "2023-08-13T04:06:35Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The Jays sent him back down to the minors yesterday, for the second time this season. Various articles I’m reading indicate nothing about an injury or anything like that, just that he seems to be struggling with his delivery. It’s not hard to see. His landing foot never lands in the same place twice. WHY that’s happening I don’t know, but you cannot be successful doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980/60 "2023-08-13T12:07:53Z")
I guess [this kind of thing](https://twitter.com/i/status/1690508391360118784) is why you’re the worst team in the majors. Don’t look now, but the Nats are poised to vault over the Mets into 4th place! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-august-2023/987980.md?page=4)