# MLB fans-Who will break your heart if they are in the Mitchell report? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 13, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863 "2007-12-13T15:03:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/21 "2007-12-13T17:06:07Z")
Tony Gwynn. I really, really don’t want to see him on the list. One of the classiest players I’ve ever met. ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/22 "2007-12-13T17:08:02Z")
Joe Carter and Roy Halladay. I would be crushed. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/23 "2007-12-13T17:09:18Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] > **[Sports – NBC New York](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/)** > > Articles from the category: Sports Here’s an allegdly complete leaked list. Just posting the link for now. I haven’t read it all yet. [/QUOTE] It’s been taken down. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/24 "2007-12-13T17:09:28Z")
Neither Schilling or Ripkin are on the list. Neither is Tony Gwinn. List includes: Bonds Pujols both Giambis both Boones Clemens McGwire Nomar Pettite Mark prior Johnny Damon Kerry Wood Jeff Bagwell Man, there’s a lot of big names on this list. Jeter is absent. Surprisingly, Sammy Sosa is NOT on the list. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/25 "2007-12-13T17:11:05Z")
[QUOTE=dalej42] Tony Gwynn. I really, really don’t want to see him on the list. One of the classiest players I’ve ever met. [/QUOTE] That would stink, I have utmost repsect for him. **DtC** : Wait until 2pm > [@](#): > > NEW YORK – Newschannel 4’s Jonathan Dienst has obtained names of baseball players expected to be on George Mitchell’s list of players linked to performance enhancing drugs in major league baseball. Baseball officials are refuting several names on the list. > > A high-ranking MLB official said there are several errors in the list provided to [WNBC.com](http://WNBC.com) by two sources. Original sources are standing by the preliminary list provided to [WNBC.com](http://WNBC.com). Therefore, we working to clarify the list at this time. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/26 "2007-12-13T17:13:14Z")
I still had the page up from before they took it down. Here’s the complete list with the caveat that MLB is claiming that the list contains “several errors.” WNBC is standing by the list. # Brady Anderson # Manny Alexander # Rick Ankiel # Jeff Bagwell # Barry Bonds # Aaron Boone # Rafael Bettancourt # Bret Boone # Milton Bradley # David Bell # Dante Bichette # Albert Belle # Paul Byrd # Wil Cordero # Ken Caminiti # Mike Cameron # Ramon Castro # Jose Canseco # Ozzie Canseco # Roger Clemens # Paxton Crawford # Wilson Delgado # Lenny Dykstra # Johnny Damon # Carl Everett # Kyle Farnsworth # Ryan Franklin # Troy Glaus # Rich Garces # Jason Grimsley # Juan Gonzalez # Eric Gagne # Nomar Garciaparra # Jason Giambi # Jeremy Giambi # Jose Guillen # Jay Gibbons # Juan Gonzalez # Clay Hensley # Jerry Hairston # Felix Heredia, Jr. # Darren Holmes # Wally Joyner # Darryl Kile # Matt Lawton # Raul Mondesi # Mark McGwire # Guillermo Mota # Robert Machado # Damian Moss # Abraham Nunez # Trot Nixon # Jose Offerman # Andy Pettitte # Mark Prior # Neifi Perez # Rafael Palmiero # Albert Pujols # Brian Roberts # Juan Rincon # John Rocker # Pudge Rodriguez # Sammy Sosa # Scott Sc hoenweiis # David Segui # Alex Sanchez # Gary Sheffield # Miguel Tejada # Julian Tavarez # Fernando Tatis # Maurice Vaughn # Jason Varitek # Ismael Valdez # Matt Williams # Kerry Wood ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/27 "2007-12-13T17:13:30Z")
Todd Helton is the one that would kill me. I primarily like him cause the strikes me a “play honorably” type guy, and I have been defending him for years. edit: oops, hehe that’s what you get for typing a reponse hours before you post it. Oh well I’m glad to see he isn’t on it 🆒 The only “real” Rocky on the list I could see was Dante, and that’s not a big surprise. Varitek is the big surprise for me. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/28 "2007-12-13T17:15:52Z")
Brady Anderson- HUGE surprise there 🙂 - gee, I wonder what year he took them… ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/29 "2007-12-13T17:16:30Z")
I’d hate to see Gwynn, Mattingly, Puckett, and Freddie Patek on the list. Would LOVE LOVE LOVE for Shilling to be there. Ripken too- I think his streak was selfish and cost the Orioles some wins over the course of it. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/30 "2007-12-13T17:16:40Z")
Jason Varitek and Trot Nixon. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/31 "2007-12-13T17:22:24Z")
I don’t see a lot of shockers in there; a lot of the ‘names’ had been linked to steroids earlier. Pujols, however, could be a real blow to the game. I’m surprised Jason and Jeremy Giambi’s brother “Tiny” didn’t make the list. And I regret not suggesting Mo Vaughn in the other thread. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/32 "2007-12-13T17:24:11Z")
If that list is correct, the only one that bothers me is Jason Varitek. I’m not a Red Sox fan, but I’ve always liked that guy and thought he was on the up and up. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/33 "2007-12-13T17:24:32Z")
Who would have suspected John Rocker was a 'roid rager? ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/34 "2007-12-13T17:29:50Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Who would have suspected John Rocker was a 'roid rager? [/QUOTE] Nobody, but Wood and Prior are on there, as well as Sosa and Nomar, so there’s 3 former Cubbies (Prior was released to free agency last night at 11:00pm) and one current Cub (Wood, slated to be a closer). Not the biggest surprise with Wood and Prior, they’ve spent more time being injured than playing the game. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/35 "2007-12-13T17:33:37Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Who would have suspected John Rocker was a 'roid rager? [/QUOTE] Or Carl Everett? ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/36 "2007-12-13T17:35:14Z")
If it’s true that Wood and Prior are on the list, I’ll be a little bummed…especially Prior. He always seemed like a standup guy [to.me](http://to.me). ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/37 "2007-12-13T17:37:26Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] If it’s true that Wood and Prior are on the list, I’ll be a little bummed…especially Prior. He always seemed like a standup guy [to.me](http://to.me). [/QUOTE] Remember to differentiate between guys who juiced to become monsters (Sosa, Pujols, Bonds, McGuire) and the guys who used it to try and rehab from injury. Both those guys have been pretty torn up in the last few years. In my heart of hearts I can’t see it as cheating when you’re just trying to keep your job (this is 100% IMHO. I know plenty would disagree) or ease the pain. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/38 "2007-12-13T17:41:04Z")
This list gives a whole new meaning to “player to be named later,” no? ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/39 "2007-12-13T17:43:43Z")
[QUOTE=spoke-] This list gives a whole new meaning to “player to be named later,” no? [/QUOTE] There’s also plenty of speculation on the radio today that this might unleash a never ending cascade of players who are named flipping on other players who weren’t. Today will always be remembered as a sad day in baseball. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863/40 "2007-12-13T17:46:31Z")
That is true, and neither of them are massive guys…or, at least neither have become unusually or weirdly massive in a short period of time like some of these guys. Which, I guess is why I’m surprised to see them there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-fans-who-will-break-your-heart-if-they-are-in-the-mitchell-report/429863.md?page=3)