# MLB-Hot Stove League winter 2022/23

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [November 14, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910 "2022-11-14T20:53:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/121 "2022-12-18T17:20:59Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Dansby Swanson

The baseball player who sounds most like a law firm (since the retirement of Jacoby Ellsbury).

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/122 "2022-12-18T17:31:11Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> The baseball player who sounds most like a law firm (since the retirement of Jacoby Ellsbury).

Maybe they should form a firm with former NFL player BenJarvus Green-Ellis.

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**Author:** ![RobotDevilDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@RobotDevilDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobotDevilDog)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/123 "2022-12-18T17:38:36Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > Dansby Swanson
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> The baseball player who sounds most like a law firm (since the retirement of Jacoby Ellsbury).

The father and son combo of Vern Law and Vance Law would like a word with you.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/124 "2022-12-20T13:44:28Z")

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Tom Browning pass at age 62. The Lefty was a long time Red and threw a Prefect Game back in '88. He had a 6 year run as a really solid starter. In fact checking [BBR](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/brownto05.shtml), he led the league 4 of those seasons in starts.

Reports are he died of natural causes.

> **[Former Reds pitcher Tom Browning, owner of perfect game, dead at 62](https://nypost.com/2022/12/19/ex-reds-pitcher-tom-browning-owner-of-perfect-game-dead-at-62/)**
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> Tom Browning, the All-Star Reds southpaw best remembered for pitching a perfect game, died Monday at 62.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/125 "2022-12-21T12:48:18Z")

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Big stunner breaking overnight: Carlos Correa deal with Giants not happening and heading to Mets instead.

> **[Carlos Correa agrees to $315M deal with New York Mets after contract with San...](https://www.foxnews.com/sports/carlos-correa-agrees-deal-new-york-mets-after-contract-san-francisco-giants-falls-through)**
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> Carlos Correa has agreed to a new deal with the New York Mets after a failed physical caused a previous $350 million agreement with the San Francisco Giants to fall through.

> **[Mets swoop in to sign Carlos Correa to a 12-year, $315 million deal after...](https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mets-swoop-in-to-sign-carlos-correa-to-a-12-year-315-million-deal-per-report/)**
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> The All-Star had recently agreed to terms on a $350 million contract with the Giants

> **[Report: Giants Concerned With Carlos Correa Medical Issue](https://www.si.com/mlb/2022/12/20/giants-concerned-medical-issue-carlos-correa-physical)**
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> San Francisco called off a Tuesday news conference to introduce the superstar shortstop.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/126 "2022-12-21T18:38:43Z")

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No real surprise here, but Aaron Judge is named captain.

> **[Judge named 16th captain in Yankees history](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35297571/yankees-name-aaron-judge-16th-captain-franchise-history)**
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> The New York Yankees announced slugger Aaron Judge as their new team captain, the 16th in franchise history and the first to hold the position since Derek Jeter (2003-14).

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/127 "2022-12-21T18:45:50Z")

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I actually listened to the press conference. It was a nice touch that Jeter was there for this.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/128 "2022-12-21T18:47:26Z")

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Huh. I don’t think there is any precedent for a massive contract being called off because of the physical.

I can’t be the only person hoping the Mets just shit the bed in 2023. It would be so funny for the hedge fund guy’s team to spend $350 million and just absolutely suck donkey ass. The 1992 Mets were “The Worst Team Money Could Buy,” and I’m rooting hard for the 2023 Mets to be worse.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/129 "2022-12-21T18:57:07Z")

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I’m mixed on this. While it would be kind of funny, on the other side. This area gets really baseball crazy when both teams are really good. I enjoy that so much, I would take it over bad luck for the hedge fund guy.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/130 "2022-12-21T19:30:57Z")

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Do other teams have captains, or is that just a Yankees thing?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/131 "2022-12-21T19:40:07Z")

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I thought the Red Sox did and one wore a “C” on his jersey similar to hockey captains.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/132 "2022-12-21T20:04:41Z")

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Varitek?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/133 "2022-12-21T20:07:11Z")

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That’s what I was thinking. Only person I ever knew that wore a C.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/134 "2022-12-21T20:12:47Z")

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Trivia: name the somewhat famous Yankee who was stripped of his captaincy after climbing into the stands in an attempt to fight a fan.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/135 "2022-12-21T20:29:39Z")

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I think I know it, but I’m getting confused.  
It was either Hal Chase or Frank Chance.

Actually as I think back, one was a player manager so it was probably Hal Chase, also in trouble connected to the Black Sox.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/136 "2022-12-21T20:33:47Z")

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Actually I recall both John Franco & Keith Hernandez wearing the “C” on the jersey.

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I did some digging, as of today, only Aaron Judge is a Captain in the MLB.  
In the last 2 seasons there were none.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/137 "2022-12-21T20:39:36Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Actually I recall both John Franco & Keith Hernandez wearing the “C” on the jersey.

Which just looked so silly.

Hockey has captains and alternates with letters on their jerseys because there are actually rules in hockey about captains being allowed to talk to officials about stuff other players cannot talk about. Baseball has no need of such a thing.

The Yankees didn’t have a captain during their greatest modern run, 1996-2000. ETA: Nor did they when they won five World Series in a row, 1949-1953.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/138 "2022-12-21T20:42:02Z")

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Now I feel bad. 🙂

The ‘somewhat famous’ was meant to be ironic.

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**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/139 "2022-12-21T20:42:29Z")

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Babe Ruth?

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-league-winter-2022-23/974910/140 "2022-12-21T20:44:26Z")

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Yanks didn’t have a Captain during the incredible runs in the 40s & 50s either. But also not during the late 60s /early 70s very dry spell. There was a large gap between Gehrig & Munson.

Captains & Old Timers games are things Yankee Fans like that most teams don’t have or care about. It is all cool.

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