# MLB Hot Stove / Offseason 2018-2019

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 2, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890 "2018-11-02T14:28:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/21 "2018-11-03T04:13:56Z")

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Yep, ain’t nothing like it.

Mariano Rivera averaged around $132,000 per inning over his career. I wonder if he’s tops when you break it down. Kershaw is averaging $79,000 per inning.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/22 "2018-11-03T14:57:23Z")

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Maybe after we both retire I’ll hire him to play catch with me. I’ll have to win the lottery first, of course.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/23 "2018-11-03T15:54:07Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Is anyone betting against the Yankees signing Machado? \*Somebody \*has to play SS with Gregorius out, so why not one of the biggest a-holes in the game?

I’d be surprised if they don’t sign him. Gregorius is going to be a free agent at the end of the 2019 season, and Machado can more than replace his missing offense. If they can’t get Harper, Machado makes sense for them.

Plus he’s clean-cut (by hair/beard standards anyway), sure to fit into the locker room culture and be given respectful treatment by the New York sports media. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/24 "2018-11-03T16:31:56Z")

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> [@harmonicamoon](#):
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> Receives a million dollars each time he starts a game.
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> Good wages for playing a kid’s game.

Indeed. The thing is, he’s worth it.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/25 "2018-11-03T21:32:14Z")

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> [@harmonicamoon](#):
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> Receives a million dollars each time he starts a game.
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> Good wages for playing a kid’s game.

Well that, plus constant workouts and practice through much of the year, arduous travel, and screwing up your muscles and joints for life, not to mention the chance to be reviled by millions of people for decades if a ball gets away from you at a critical time.

But it’s still good wages.🙂

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/26 "2018-11-03T21:59:12Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> The point was he could have made much more guaranteed money in free agency. Tacking on $23 million for one year is a hometown discount.

I disagree. He would have not made anywhere close to 30 mil a season in free agency. Front offices have changed. He did as well as he could expect.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/27 "2018-11-05T14:10:16Z")

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I think if Kershaw thought he could have made more, he’d have gone. So other good starting pitcher free agents are Dallas Keuchel, Patrick Corbin, and Charlie Morton. Houston may only keep one of Morton or Keuchel. One of the other two mentioned probably ends up on the Yankees.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/28 "2018-11-07T14:31:32Z")

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Great now the Dodgers are losing their real talent to the Giants can’t we enforce no interdivision exec moves?

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/29 "2018-11-07T14:34:41Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Great now the Dodgers are losing their real talent to the Giants can’t we enforce no interdivision exec moves?

Honestly, I’m just wondering if we’re going to trade Puig to the Reds so he doesn’t have to find someone new to kiss.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/30 "2018-11-07T20:30:25Z")

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Bryce Harper turned down 10/300 to stay in Washington. Is he going to get 10/350? That is just crazy. He was the 2015 NL MVP and has not had a top 10 finish in MVP voting since. In fact, his 2018 was downright pedestrian with 1.3 WAR. I wouldn’t want him for anywhere near the money he thinks he can get.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/31 "2018-11-08T02:29:17Z")

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You only have to convince one GM.

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**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/32 "2018-11-08T04:26:04Z")

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Maybe it ain’t the money.

He wants the ring!

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/33 "2018-11-08T14:41:46Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> Bryce Harper turned down 10/300 to stay in Washington. Is he going to get 10/350? That is just crazy. He was the 2015 NL MVP and has not had a top 10 finish in MVP voting since. In fact, his 2018 was downright pedestrian with 1.3 WAR. I wouldn’t want him for anywhere near the money he thinks he can get.

I think Harper has more value to the Nats than any other team. The Nats are still a new franchise and even people who don’t really follow the game know who Harper is. For a the Nats, being so closely associated with such a well name player means more than for a team like the Yankees which has a much longer history of star players. Harper’s agent Boras does a lot of business with the Nats and it wouldn’t surprise me if they come to terms.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/34 "2018-11-08T15:30:04Z")

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I kind of think he’ll stay in Washington, too. Don’t see him going to the Yankees, they’ve got a pretty good right fielder. So do the Red Sox. Rumor has it the Phillies are the most interested. Boras says Harper’s value is up to $500M. Not sure if he’s thinking 15 year deal or what, but either way that is insanity.

ETA: Would love to see Philly fans reaction if they do sign Harper to a huge contract and he’s hitting in the .240s again next year.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/35 "2018-11-08T15:36:13Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> I kind of think he’ll stay in Washington, too. Don’t see him going to the Yankees, they’ve got a pretty good right fielder. So do the Red Sox. Rumor has it the Phillies are the most interested. Boras says Harper’s value is up to $500M. Not sure if he’s thinking 15 year deal or what, but either way that is insanity.
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> ETA: Would love to see Philly fans reaction if they do sign Harper to a huge contract and he’s hitting in the .240s again next year.

Boris says a lot of things. All part of his negotiating tactics.

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/36 "2018-11-08T17:28:12Z")

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The Nats could do a lot with that money. They need starters, relievers and a catcher. And I have no problem with an outfield of Soto, Robles and Eaton, even though Robles hasn’t really proven himself yet. I think there was talk of moving Bryce to 1B in any event. He’s not a great outfielder.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/37 "2018-11-08T18:38:24Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Boris says a lot of things. All part of his negotiating tactics.

At some point you damage your own credibility. But, it seems Scot Boras doesn’t really care much about his reputation.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/38 "2018-11-09T00:48:37Z")

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[Bill James says the players are all replaceable.](http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25216412/comments-boston-red-sox-adviser-bill-james-draws-ire-mlbpa-players)

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> “If the players all retired tomorrow, we would replace them,” James continued. “The game would go on; in three years it would make no difference whatsoever. The players are NOT the game, any more than the beer vendors are.”

Time to check into the Old Fools Home, Bill.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/39 "2018-11-09T01:03:29Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Bill James says the players are all replaceable.](http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25216412/comments-boston-red-sox-adviser-bill-james-draws-ire-mlbpa-players)
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> Time to check into the Old Fools Home, Bill.

Yep, I heard that from my brother and just shook my head.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-2018-2019/823890/40 "2018-11-09T02:27:34Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Bill James says the players are all replaceable.](http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25216412/comments-boston-red-sox-adviser-bill-james-draws-ire-mlbpa-players)
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> Time to check into the Old Fools Home, Bill.

I agree with him. There would be new star pitchers and hitters. Are there not stars in any level of organized baseball?

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