# MLB Hot Stove / Offseason / Lockout 2021-2022 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [October 15, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531 "2021-10-15T02:59:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/261 "2022-03-09T22:48:39Z")
As long as MLB is instituting stupid rules like Universal DH… How about making it a rule that for every glove adjustment by a batter, the pitcher gets a penalty-free throw at them? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/262 "2022-03-10T00:03:04Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > After that, each step-out is a strike. As I think about it, my suggestion is overly complicated. Just say that once the batter steps into the box to start the at-bat, the pitcher can throw pitches whenever he’s ready, whether the batter is in the box or not. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/263 "2022-03-10T00:09:17Z")
That’s the rule now ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/264 "2022-03-10T00:29:57Z")
My suggestion is for the entire _at-bat_, not for each pitch as it is now. And with the elimination of “calling time”. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/265 "2022-03-10T15:13:34Z")
Oooohhh, they’re in trouble now! Dick Durbin has started making noises about revisiting MLB’s anti-trust exemption. > **[Leading Dem plays hardball with MLB as owners' lockout of baseball players...](https://www.rawstory.com/mlb-lockout-antitrust-exemption/)** > > The number two Democrat in the U.S. Senate launched a brushback pitch aimed at Major League Baseball owners on Wednesday."Enough," Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) posted to Twitter."After almost 100 days of the MLB lockout, it’s time to reconsider MLB’s... ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/266 "2022-03-10T20:59:41Z")
The lockout is over! > **[MLB reaches labor agreement with players union and Opening Day is set for...](https://us.cnn.com/2022/03/10/sport/mlb-labor-deal-spt/index.html)** > > The lockout is over. Major League Baseball and the players union on Thursday reached a deal on a new collective bargaining agreement, ending the first league work stoppage since the players went on strike during the 1994 season. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/267 "2022-03-10T21:02:28Z")
Well, well, well. What a coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/268 "2022-03-10T21:06:35Z")
Great news, whatever the reasons. I really hope pace of game is being fixed. I can give a crap about the rest of it. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/269 "2022-03-10T21:09:19Z")
It’s going to be a fun, free-agent bonanza between now and opening day. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/270 "2022-03-10T22:22:41Z")
The gist of the agreement, as per ESPN: > [@](#): > > In addition to the new CBT [competitive balance tax], which increases from $230 million to $244 million over the five-year deal, the minimum salary governing players with less than three years of major league service will jump from $570,500 to $700,000, growing to $780,000, and a bonus pool worth $50 million will be distributed among those younger players who have yet to reach salary arbitration. > > MLB had pushed for expanding the postseason to 12 teams – a plan to which the MLBPA agreed. Additionally, player uniforms will feature advertising for the first time, with patches on jerseys and decals on batting helmets. > > Other elements of the deal include: > > - A 45-day window for MLB to implement rules changes – among them a pitch clock, ban on shifts and larger bases in the 2023 season. > - The National League adopting the designated hitter. > - A draft lottery implemented with the intent of discouraging tanking. > - Draft-pick inducements to discourage service-time manipulation. > - Limiting the number of times a player can be optioned to the minor leagues in one season. It looks like the on-field rules changes, such as a pitch clock, which had been proposed (other than the DH) are being pushed down the road until 2023 or later. There will apparently be a committee, which will include several players and an umpire, which will be proposing said changes. > **[MLB owners vote to ratify CBA, ending lockout](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33470321/sources-mlb-union-reach-tentative-agreement-new-cba-salvage-162-game-season)** > > MLB commissioner Rob Manfred and union chief Tony Clark hailed the new collective bargaining agreement Thursday, which halted the league's 99-day lockout and salvaged a 162-game season. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/271 "2022-03-10T22:35:42Z")
Right, so the money issues are largely resolved and the far more important issues, pushed off again. Idiots. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/272 "2022-03-10T22:49:08Z")
Yup. It feels like they are simply unwilling to believe what fans and sportswriters have been complaining about for years, about the slow pace of play and lack of action. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/273 "2022-03-10T22:51:23Z")
It makes me sad for the future of the game. My kids generation is not into baseball at all. MLB is really not getting it. Today’s young adults would rather watch E-Sports. Speed the game back up. Do everything possible to get back to the speed of the game in the 70s and before. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/274 "2022-03-10T23:32:30Z")
2000 playoff teams. NFL type tiebreaker rules so no game 163s. The shift banned next year? RIP. Enjoy your 20 pct. drop in attendance as you continue to alienate your core base. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/275 "2022-03-11T00:04:04Z")
When does this agreement end? ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/276 "2022-03-11T00:06:57Z")
People have been predicting the end of baseball for decades now. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/277 "2022-03-11T00:31:22Z")
End? No…itll be around forever. Clownball or no. Im just saying whats going to happen. And TPTB won’t acknowledge its because they keep fucking around with a game built on nostalgia. They’ll just say ‘because its not the NFL. We cant get the youth to watch. They hate us because of the work stoppage’ ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/278 "2022-03-11T00:32:20Z")
Attendance will likely not drop 20% if they don’t implement your pet rules. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/279 "2022-03-11T03:08:37Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > It makes me sad for the future of the game. My kids generation is not into baseball at all. MLB is really not getting it. Today’s young adults would rather watch E-Sports. Speed the game back up. Do everything possible to get back to the speed of the game in the 70s and before. Aside from the pitch clock what exactly do you recommend they do? They’ve already mandated relief pitchers have to face 3 batters (which a lot of people got mad about). I guess they could massively increase the strike zone as pitchers duels are very very quick… but lack of offense does tend to screw viewership. Ideally the banning of the shift and DHs in both leagues should increase the action, but isn’t going to shorten the games any. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531/280 "2022-03-11T05:14:33Z")
all the sports writers have been saying the same thing … the contract was al about the money and nothing else [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove-offseason-lockout-2021-2022/952531.md?page=15)