# MLB Hot Stove **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 2, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494 "2017-11-02T14:13:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/101 "2017-11-21T21:30:17Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > Well how about a Yankee also won the award in > 1976 1963 1962 1961 1960 1957 1956 1955 1954 1951 1950 1947 1943 1942 1941 1939 1936. > > Now it’s true the Yankees won the pennant in many of those years, but that’s not the statistics you’re citing. Well, they won most of those awards because they had the greatest players. You’re talking about the most dominant franchise in baseball history. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/102 "2017-11-29T13:25:51Z")
\*\*Players Choice Awards \*\* **American League** ``` **Outstanding Player** : [Jose Altuve](http://m.mlb.com/player/514888/jose-altuve) (HOU) ``` **Outstanding Pitcher** : [Corey Kluber](http://m.mlb.com/player/446372/corey-kluber) (CLE) **Outstanding Rookie** : [Aaron Judge](http://m.mlb.com/player/592450/aaron-judge) (NYY) **Comeback Player** : [Mike Moustakas](http://m.mlb.com/player/519058/mike-moustakas) (KC) ``` **National League** **Outstanding Player** : [Giancarlo Stanton](http://m.mlb.com/player/519317/giancarlo-stanton) (MIA) ``` **Outstanding Pitcher** : [Max Scherzer](http://m.mlb.com/player/453286/max-scherzer) (WSH) **Outstanding Rookie** : [Cody Bellinger](http://m.mlb.com/player/641355/cody-bellinger) (LAD) **Comeback Player** : [Ryan Zimmerman](http://m.mlb.com/player/475582/ryan-zimmerman) (WSH) Baseball America magazine’s “ **Executive of the Year** ’’: Brian Cashman (NYY) Rule 5 Draft getting close. December 14[sup]th[/sup] ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/103 "2017-11-30T20:21:18Z")
Angels trade a nothing prospect to the Braves for Jim Johnson and all their international bonus pool money, moving them up to 7th in pool money. And hopefully now a player in the Ootani sweepstakes. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/104 "2017-11-30T20:50:52Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Angels trade a nothing prospect to the Braves for Jim Johnson and all their international bonus pool money, moving them up to 7th in pool money. And hopefully now a player in the Ohtani sweepstakes. [sub]_fixed players name above_[/sub] Why did the Braves make this trade? This was to save $5 million? The Angels are now at $1.315 million for international signing pool. The young lefty the Braves got is [Justin Kelly,](https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=kelly-000jus) Round 33 pick 2016. Over 2 season has a 4.59 ERA. He did advance quickly though and saw AAA this season. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/105 "2017-11-30T22:26:37Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > [sub]_fixed players name above_[/sub] > Why did the Braves make this trade? This was to save $5 million? > > The Angels are now at $1.315 million for international signing pool. > > The young lefty the Braves got is [Justin Kelly,](https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=kelly-000jus) Round 33 pick 2016. Over 2 season has a 4.59 ERA. He did advance quickly though and saw AAA this season. He was horrible at each level above A though. Johnson’s advanced metrics weren’t too bad. This was a good deal for the Angels, imo. And thank God DiPoto, Reagins, et al are gone. Billy Epler has done quite a bit with a broken franchise. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/106 "2017-11-30T23:16:53Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > So since 1964, 53 years, there have only been 4 Yankee MVPs. Looks like a bias _against_ New York to me. > > Which of the pre-1964 awards do you have a quibble with? (not that I give a flying fuck) I’m not one who started this question by simply counting the number of awards given and implying there was a bias against the Yankees. I simply pointed out that you looked at a limited time sample. But if you wish to concentrate on post '64, how many should the Yankees have won by simple arithmetic? There were 4 seasons of 10 AL teams, 8 seasons of 12 teams, 36 seasons of 14 teams, and 5 seasons of 15 teams for an average of 13.5 teams per year. The Yankees “should” have won 53/13.5 = 3.9 MVPs. So 4 seems exactly right – no bias against them at all or a bias of +0.1 in their favor if you wish. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/107 "2017-12-01T13:15:34Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > The young lefty the Braves got is [Justin Kelly,](https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=kelly-000jus) Round 33 pick 2016. Over 2 season has a 4.59 ERA. He did advance quickly though and saw AAA this season. Despite being named for[one of the worst movies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Justin_to_Kelly) of recent years. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/108 "2017-12-01T19:30:48Z")
The Yankees were supposed to interview two or three more managerial candidates but suddenly [stopped at six.](http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/candidates-running-yankees-manager-article-1.3670272) Right after interviewing Carlos Beltran. A portent? I hope so. With a solid bench coach I think Beltran would make a decent manager. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/109 "2017-12-01T21:14:20Z")
I don’t know what it is based on but reports are the new Yankees’ Manager will be Boone or Meulens. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/110 "2017-12-01T22:00:21Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > The Yankees were supposed to interview two or three more managerial candidates but suddenly [stopped at six.](http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/candidates-running-yankees-manager-article-1.3670272) Right after interviewing Carlos Beltran. A portent? I hope so. With a solid bench coach I think Beltran would make a decent manager. If only he could pinch hit in a spot here and there. I don’t know if the Yankees would want to take that risk. Hensley Meulens seems like a pretty great choice. He speaks 5 languages! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/111 "2017-12-01T22:22:39Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > If only he could pinch hit in a spot here and there. I don’t know if the Yankees would want to take that risk. Hensley Meulens seems like a pretty great choice. He speaks 5 languages! Which 5? English, Spanish, Japanese, Korean & Chinese would cover every player in baseball I think. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/112 "2017-12-02T00:04:31Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Which 5? > > English, Spanish, Japanese, Korean & Chinese would cover every player in baseball I think. Hensley Meulens is Dutch (from Curacao) as are a few other major leaguers like Didi Gregorius (who was actually born in the Netherlands but grew up in Curacao). He also speaks English, Spanish, Japanese, and [Papiamento](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papiamento), the Creole language of Curacao. There are a couple of players from Brazil so you would need Portuguese too. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/113 "2017-12-02T01:35:31Z")
And it’s Aaron Boone. > **[Yankees officially name Aaron Boone as their new manager](https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-officially-name-aaron-boone-as-their-new-manager/)** > > Boone has never coached or managed before ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/114 "2017-12-02T02:47:20Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > And it’s Aaron Boone. Good…then Bam Bam can stay in San Francisco to translate for Shohei Ohtani, while he helps shore up the Giants outfield along with Giancarlo Stanton and Lorenzo Cain 😃 ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/115 "2017-12-02T03:07:38Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Good…then Bam Bam can stay in San Francisco to translate for Shohei Ohtani, while he helps shore up the Giants outfield along with Giancarlo Stanton and Lorenzo Cain 😃 Ohtani is coming to Anaheim to play with Mike Trout. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/116 "2017-12-02T03:59:27Z")
Ohtani will be Dodgers or Yanks, we all know it. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/117 "2017-12-02T05:25:12Z")
The Cubs are a dark horse in the sweepstakes, but I agree it’ll probably be the Yankees or Dodgers. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/118 "2017-12-02T13:46:24Z")
Ohtani will almost certainly go to the AL. He hasn’t played in the outfield since 2014 so all of his plate appearances on non-pitching days have been as the DH. As for Aaron Boone there has always been something that bothered me about him. When he injured his knee in the 2003-2004 offseason, he admitted to the Yankees that it happened playing basketball, which was contractually forbidden. So the Yankees voided his contract (costing Boone 5.75 million) and released him. I could never figure out if that was admirable or if Aaron Boone was a schmuck. I guess Cashman appreciated it, though. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/119 "2017-12-02T14:26:39Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Ohtani will almost certainly go to the AL. He hasn’t played in the outfield since 2014 so all of his plate appearances on non-pitching days have been as the DH. > > As for Aaron Boone there has always been something that bothered me about him. When he injured his knee in the 2003-2004 offseason, he admitted to the Yankees that it happened playing basketball, which was contractually forbidden. So the Yankees voided his contract (costing Boone 5.75 million) and released him. I could never figure out if that was admirable or if Aaron Boone was a schmuck. > > I guess Cashman appreciated it, though. We could say an honest schmuck. It is also very possible he knew the Yanks would find out about the basketball cause of injury and just admitted to it to avoid looking worse in the press by having it then exposed later. I’m not sure about this pick. No coaching experience but actually has spent his entire life around MLB. Boone would not have been my first or even second choice but then neither was Torre. It is not like any candidate this time around really stood out anyway. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494/120 "2017-12-02T16:46:40Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > The Cubs are a dark horse in the sweepstakes, but I agree it’ll probably be the Yankees or Dodgers. Ootani said he wanted to go to a team without a legacy of Japanese players. So I’m guessing that rules out the Yankees. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-hot-stove/800494.md?page=7)