# MLB: July 2016 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 1, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862 "2016-07-01T12:59:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/181 "2016-07-24T18:51:49Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > In other news, looks like Tim Lincecum has well and truly lost it. šŸ˜¢ ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/182 "2016-07-24T19:04:58Z")
Yeah, Lincecum is being DFA tomorrow ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/183 "2016-07-24T22:44:13Z")
And the Astros call up Alex Bregman. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/184 "2016-07-25T00:43:24Z")
Watching Dodgers-Cardinals tonight. Mike Mayers gets his first start in the majors and with some bad luck, gives up 6 runs in the first inning. Iā€™m a Dodgers fan but I feel sorry for the guy. Hopefully heā€™ll get some more starts in the majors and some wins. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/185 "2016-07-25T00:47:05Z")
[Aroldis Chapman](http://m.mlb.com/news/article/191503042/yankees-aroldis-chapman-could-be-traded/?partnerId=as_mlb_20160725_64138276&adbid=757371635229831168&adbpl=tw&adbpr=18479513) appears to be heading to the Cubs. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/186 "2016-07-25T12:15:11Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > [Aroldis Chapman](http://m.mlb.com/news/article/191503042/yankees-aroldis-chapman-could-be-traded/?partnerId=as_mlb_20160725_64138276&adbid=757371635229831168&adbpl=tw&adbpr=18479513) appears to be heading to the Cubs. I canā€™t access sports sites at work. What will the Yankees get in return? ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/187 "2016-07-25T12:23:14Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I canā€™t access sports sites at work. What will the Yankees get in return? Reports say theyā€™d get top shortstop prospect Gleyber Torres, plus other unnamed pieces. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/188 "2016-07-25T12:26:36Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > Reports say theyā€™d get top shortstop prospect Gleyber Torres, plus other unnamed pieces. What the hell? Didi is more than adequate at short. As much as I like Texiera, heā€™s become too injury-prone. Give me a 1B prospect and maybe a long/relief or starter. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/189 "2016-07-25T12:42:29Z")
They may be thinking of Torres as the 3B of the future. Heā€™s rated pretty highly in most tools, with the exception of power. They just traded Vogelbach to the Mariners. He was blocked by Anthony Rizzo at 1B, but heā€™d rake as a DH. Torres was blocked in Chicago with Baez/Zobrist/Bryant/Russell all in the mix for the infielders of the future. According to [rotoworld](http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/5757/aroldis-chapman), part of the hold up is that the Cubs want to work out an extension with Chapman. If that doesnā€™t happen, then I expect that the Cubs wonā€™t include nearly as much talent. Why pay a kingā€™s ransom for a 2-month rental? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/190 "2016-07-25T12:50:44Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > They may be thinking of Torres as the 3B of the future. Heā€™s rated pretty highly in most tools, with the exception of power. They just traded Vogelbach to the Mariners. He was blocked by Anthony Rizzo at 1B, but heā€™d rake as a DH. Torres was blocked in Chicago with Baez/Zobrist/Bryant/Russell all in the mix for the infielders of the future. > > According to [rotoworld](http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/5757/aroldis-chapman), part of the hold up is that the Cubs want to work out an extension with Chapman. If that doesnā€™t happen, then I expect that the Cubs wonā€™t include nearly as much talent. Why pay a kingā€™s ransom for a 2-month rental? Yes if he can play 3B that would make some sense. It would be frustrating to be an infield prospect with the Cubs, thatā€™s a tough act to break into. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/191 "2016-07-25T13:00:40Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I bitch about a lot of jerseys but canā€™t understand Saleā€™s problem . If a MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM is giving you a jersey to wear so you can play for them, I donā€™t care if it has fucking Hello Kitty on it, you put it on and go out there and play ball. Maybe things have been brewing for awhile, but the employees donā€™t pick the uniforms. If you cashed your paycheck, do your goddamn job. [QUOTE=BobLibDem] What the hell? Didi is more than adequate at short. As much as I like Texiera, heā€™s become too injury-prone. Give me a 1B prospect and maybe a long/relief or starter. [/QUOTE] Torres is 19 years old and at high A ball, so itā€™s not like theyā€™re pushing Gregorius out now, and youā€™re right, theyā€™d be stupid to; Gregorius is a decent ballplayer. The Yankees are facing a rebuilding period, so getting a Grade A prospect was the key here;\* it doesnā€™t really matter what position the prospect plays \*unless you need them to play right now, which they donā€™t. By the time Torres is ready to help the Yankees win, which will be 2018 at the earliest, who the hell knows what they will need or not need. Once Torres is actually knowing on the door then you can decide what to do. Maybe he plays third base; Chase Headley isnā€™t getting any younger or any better. Maybe Starlin Castro wonā€™t work out at second. Maybe someone makes the Yankees an offer they cannot refuse for Torres or Gregorius and they get a sweet MLB-ready hitter for first base. Incidentally, I love Torres. He is unpolished to some extent but a very precocious hitter, showing solid contact at a very young age, and his power is developing. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/192 "2016-07-25T13:19:26Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Watching Dodgers-Cardinals tonight. Mike Mayers gets his first start in the majors and with some bad luck, gives up 6 runs in the first inning. Iā€™m a Dodgers fan but I feel sorry for the guy. Hopefully heā€™ll get some more starts in the majors and some wins. The fact that he didnā€™t start crying when Gonzalez hit that Grand Slam speaks well of his character. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/193 "2016-07-25T13:57:26Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > What the hell? Didi is more than adequate at short. As much as I like Texiera, heā€™s become too injury-prone. Give me a 1B prospect and maybe a long/relief or starter. The last update had the following: > [@MLB Trade Rumors](#): > > Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that the Cubs would send four players to the Yankees in the deal. In addition to Torres, former Yankees right-hander Adam Warren would likely return to New York. Candelario, according to Sherman, is not in the deal. The trade has the approval of Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner, Sherman notes. Rosenthal tweets that the trade is in its final stages, and the players have been agreed upon. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/194 "2016-07-25T14:15:31Z")
Okay four players for a free agent I can get behind that. The Yankees definitely have a surplus of closers. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/195 "2016-07-25T16:44:40Z")
[ESPN is reporting that itā€™s a done deal](http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/17140296/new-york-yankees-agree-trade-aroldis-chapman-chicago-cubs). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/196 "2016-07-25T17:58:31Z")
Toronto DFAs Drew Storen. I cannot really explain what happened to Storen except that he just pitched really badly. There was never any indication he was hurt. He didnā€™t get Steve Blass Disease. Heā€™s not old. Heā€™d just throw really fat meatballs that got hammered. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/197 "2016-07-25T18:59:23Z")
The narrative now is that ā€œit still wasnā€™t a bad trade because it allowed Sanchez to enter the rotation and Saunders to play full-time.ā€ This is a ridiculous argument, of course. The Jays traded a player with some value (Revere) for somebody who wound up having no value (although Revere isnā€™t exactly tearing up the league either). I liked the trade at the time, as Toronto traded from a position of strength to fill a position of weakness, but in the end it canā€™t be argued that the trade ended up working out. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/198 "2016-07-25T19:25:57Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Toronto DFAs Drew Storen. > > I cannot really explain what happened to Storen except that he just pitched really badly. There was never any indication he was hurt. He didnā€™t get Steve Blass Disease. Heā€™s not old. Heā€™d just throw really fat meatballs that got hammered. Good description of the Giantsā€™ Jeff Samardzija ---
**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/199 "2016-07-25T19:52:16Z")
There needs to be a Chris Sale bobblehead doll, complete with cutup jersey and knife. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862/200 "2016-07-25T20:06:28Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > The narrative now is that ā€œit still wasnā€™t a bad trade because it allowed Sanchez to enter the rotation and Saunders to play full-time.ā€ This is a ridiculous argument, of course. The Jays traded a player with some value (Revere) for somebody who wound up having no value (although Revere isnā€™t exactly tearing up the league either). Indeed, the trade made perfect sense knowing what the two teams knew at the time. Toronto didnā€™t need Ben Revere - his replacement was Michael Saunders, and Iā€™m sure weā€™re all glad he was given a full time job - and Washington did need him. It has failed for both. Revere has played atrociously for Washington. I mean, one could argue that the trade had the fortunate side effect of allowing Saunders to play. But if you had known Storen was going to suck, obviously, you would have traded Revere for something of value. Turning perceived value into no value canā€™t be a good trade; itā€™s about opportunity cost. I donā€™t know that they would have gotten much, but they could have gotten something worth more than Drew Storen. Who knew? Hopefully Storen can turn it around somewhere else. As to Ben Revere, he might need to be released, too. I am not sure why Washington keeps running him out there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2016/758862.md?page=11)