# MLB-July 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [July 1, 2024, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558 "2024-07-01T09:25:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/41 "2024-07-17T13:00:13Z")
> **[All-Stars 5-3 All-Stars (Jul 16, 2024) Box Score - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/mlb/boxscore/_/gameId/401572073)** > > Box score for the American All-Stars vs. National All-Stars MLB game from July 16, 2024 on ESPN. Includes all pitching and batting stats. ---
**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/42 "2024-07-17T13:02:47Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/43 "2024-07-17T13:46:23Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > now these vomit-inducing All Star uniforms I was wondering if anyone had a comment about those. I thought they looked like spring training uniforms, or something. Not my cup of tea (do people say that anymore?) Definitely agree about the anthem. And even worse, God Bless America on Sundays. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/44 "2024-07-17T14:26:35Z")
I miss (and prefer) the days when each player wore the uniform of their actual team. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/45 "2024-07-17T14:27:26Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I miss (and prefer) the days when each player wore the uniform of their actual team You beat me to this point. When did they start not wearing their own uniforms? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/46 "2024-07-17T14:29:30Z")
When they discovered they could sell more jerseys if everybody wore special ones. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/47 "2024-07-17T15:18:21Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > When they discovered they could sell more jerseys if everybody wore special ones This. Like the NFL (and probably every other major league), MLB is looking to monetize things as much as possible. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/48 "2024-07-17T15:25:42Z")
Too bad the game didn’t finish in a tie. The mini home run derby tiebreaker rule would be a lot of fun to watch, and I say that as someone who never watches the actual home run derby. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/49 "2024-07-17T15:43:36Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > When they discovered they could sell more jerseys if everybody wore special ones And that was what year? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/50 "2024-07-17T15:47:52Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > And that was what year? 2021, it appears, though they initially were using special jerseys for the Home Run Derby (but not the ASG) from 1997 until 2017. > **[MLB will consider whether to return to team uniforms in All-Star Game](https://www.foxsports.com/stories/mlb/mlb-will-consider-whether-to-return-to-club-uniforms-in-allstar-game)** > > Major League Baseball will consider going back to having players wear their team uniforms for the All-Star Game, Commissioner Rob Manfred said Tuesday. > **[What year had the MLB’s best All-Star uniforms?](https://dknetwork.draftkings.com/2024/7/15/24198532/mlb-all-star-game-uniform-rankings-jerseys-nike-home-run-derby-workout-day-midsummer-classic)** > > Zach Thompson breaks down and ranks the best and the worst of MLB’s All-Star jerseys over the years. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/51 "2024-07-17T15:53:34Z")
Dumb question, but does a home run in the All-Star game count towards the player’s season statistics, or only what he hits for his own actual team? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/52 "2024-07-17T15:59:14Z")
All Star game is an exhibition. It does not count towards official stats at all. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/53 "2024-07-17T15:59:15Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Dumb question, but does a home run in the All-Star game count towards the player’s season statistics It does not. The ASG is an exhibition game, not part of the regular leagues’ schedule. The stats from the game aren’t included in the players’ stats for the season. Even though the game doesn’t count for stats or standings, for a few years (2003-2016), the result of the game was used to determine which league’s champion would have home-field advantage for the World Series (i.e., if the American League won the ASG, the AL champion would then have home-field advantage for the World Series that fall). This was done to try to create some level of importance for the game, but it wasn’t a popular idea, and it was discontinued. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/54 "2024-07-17T16:06:24Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > for a few years (2003-2016), the result of the game was used to determine which league’s champion would have home-field advantage for the World Series This was instituted because the 2002 ASG ended in a 7-7 tie after 11 innings, with no more pitchers available for either team. So this rule was put into place so the game would have some meaning. Beginning in 2017, home-field advantage in the Series has been determined by which team has the better regular-season record. Before 2003, home-field would alternate between the leagues. (IIRC) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/55 "2024-07-18T17:28:47Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > for a few years (2003-2016), the result of the game was used to determine which league’s champion would have home-field advantage for the World Series (i.e., if the American League won the ASG, the AL champion would then have home-field advantage for the World Series that fall). This was done to try to create some level of importance for the game, but it wasn’t a popular idea, and it was discontinued. I remember the broadcasters trying to talk up the idea and trying and failing to find a player to act like he gave a flying fuck about it. ---
**Author:** ![ZamboniAce1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@ZamboniAce1000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZamboniAce1000)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/56 "2024-07-22T23:35:31Z")
Hear hear! (or is it Here Here?) At any rate, you are 1,000% right on both counts. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/57 "2024-07-23T12:18:03Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I remember the broadcasters trying to talk up the idea and trying and failing to find a player to act like he gave a flying fuck about it. I basically remember talk radio and the ESPN yelling shows trying to make this huge controversy as the time of year falls in the nadir of sports news for a mainstream USA that won’t care about soccer or the Tour de France ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/58 "2024-07-23T17:35:23Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The stats from the game aren’t included in the players’ stats for the season. It isn’t even easy to find a player’s total All Star Game stats. I know Gary Carter won the All Star MVP twice, but how did he do over the course of his career in ASG? He played in 11 of them so that’s not something I wanna add up by hand. It took me awhile to find it - Baseball Reference doesn’t have it. One of the weird things about the ASG is the long stretches of dominance by one league or the other. When I was a kid the AL never won the All Star Game. It was just an annual tradition that the NL was walk out there and beat them. Sometimes the games were close, sometimes they were not, sometimes it was high scoring, sometimes low scoring, but it was just a safe assumption the NL would win. When they finally won it in 1983 - Fred Lynn hitting the first ASG grand slam in that one - it was flabbergasting. “Holy shit, the AL won” was the reaction. They hadn’t won it since before I was born and in fact had lost 19 out of the previous 20 years. And then the AL started kicking ass. In the last 37 years, the NL has only won seven times. In 37 years. (Plus the stupid tie.) The AL had a 16-3 run, then later won ten more in a row from 2013 to 2022. That is astounding. Teams win the World Series and don’t go 29-7 in any stretch of games. It just defies all probability, even if you conclude there have been times when one league really did have more talent. I really do think the NL had more top line talent in the 1960s and 1970s. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/59 "2024-07-23T19:02:46Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > When they finally won it in 1983 Oh, yes, 1983. Atlee Hammacker, a young pitcher for the Giants who led the NL in ERA that season, came in to pitch the 3rd inning. He gave up six hits, an intentional walk, and seven runs in 2/3 of an inning. His ERA for that game was 94.50. However, Hammacker did not get the loss, as the AL led 2-1 when he entered the game. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558/60 "2024-07-23T21:52:17Z")
It’s surprising that Baseball-Reference doesn’t have All-Star game stats, but Baseball-Almanac does. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july-2024/1003558.md?page=4)