# MLB: July **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 1, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097 "2014-07-01T14:40:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/121 "2014-07-15T23:27:42Z")
I’ve always liked Jeter, but this whole farewell tour of his where the Yankees go on the road and the opposing team bestows gifts upon him is completely ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/122 "2014-07-15T23:29:07Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > I’ve always liked Jeter, but this whole farewell tour of his where the Yankees go on the road and the opposing team bestows gifts upon him is completely ridiculous. No argument, but Jeter didn’t arrange that. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/123 "2014-07-15T23:29:49Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > Also, I gotta say, I kind of hate the All Star Game and it’s associated week long break. First off the game itself is almost unwatchable. It’s really a bastardization of a real baseball game. It surely should not count for anything, and absolutely not home field advantage. > > Secondly, I hate the 4 days of no baseball. I’m going to have serious withdrawals this week. I tried to watch the Home Run contest last night and found it was unwatchable as well. My God, it was boring. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/124 "2014-07-15T23:55:13Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > What do you have against Derek Jeter? How has he offended you as a baseball fan? It’s the whole farewell tour after last year’s Rivera farewell tour. ESPN is on our office tvs as well as the ones at the gym and Jeter seems to be 95% of the baseball coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/125 "2014-07-16T00:05:03Z")
No problem there, but don’t blame Jeter. Blame ESPN. It’s a story. I think it’s great we get to see an all-timer. In 1972 Willie Mays made the All-Star team at the tail end of his career. I would have loved to have seen that. The hype isn’t his doing. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/126 "2014-07-16T00:23:52Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > It was probably Argentina-Germany. It was. I was even more confused than I thought. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/127 "2014-07-16T00:27:39Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > What do you have against Derek Jeter? How has he offended you as a baseball fan? Speaking strictly for myself, he hasn’t offended me as a baseball fan, but it is _comically_ absurd that a guy who is probably the 3rd or 4th worst regular shortstop in the American League at this point is starting the All Star Game. I want him to perform poorly tonight because the idiots who voted for him don’t deserve the validation of a fluky double or something. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/128 "2014-07-16T00:31:24Z")
Oh for the love of God. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/129 "2014-07-16T00:36:53Z")
Exactly ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/130 "2014-07-16T00:41:31Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Speaking strictly for myself, he hasn’t offended me as a baseball fan, but it is _comically_ absurd that a guy who is probably the 3rd or 4th worst regular shortstop in the American League at this point is starting the All Star Game. I want him to perform poorly tonight because the idiots who voted for him don’t deserve the validation of a fluky double or something. The All-Star game _historically_ includes legends of the game who may be past their prime and not having good seasons. Personally, I think it adds to the game. You have a mix of current stars and aging legends. I don’t see anything wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/131 "2014-07-16T01:39:00Z")
Yeah, I know it’s been happening for longer than I’ve been alive. I still think it’s dumb. I especially think it’s dumb when the _entire broadcast_ has to be highjacked by a single player, and tonight might be the most egregious example of that I’ve ever seen. Mike Trout is here, you know; he’s awesome. Clayton Kershaw has been quietly having one of the best pitching runs in a very long while, coming back from injury no less. Let’s talk about a bit of that, maybe. Yasiel Puig has a good story; do we really have to hear a Jeter anecdote during Puig’s at bat? It’s starting to sound like a Saturday Night Live sketch at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/132 "2014-07-16T01:50:38Z")
They’ve talked about Puig and Kershaw a lot, along with the other stars. They also have many more AS games ahead of them. The entire broadcast hasn’t been hijacked. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/133 "2014-07-16T02:13:01Z")
Do you - honestly - think that the amount of time spent discussing and/or praising Derek Jeter (or just showing him onscreen) has been proportional and appropriate tonight, for anyone other than a Yankee fan? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/134 "2014-07-16T02:38:21Z")
I finally turned the game off. Thank God the Yankees are missing the playoffs and they’re still stuck with A Rod. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/135 "2014-07-16T02:38:33Z")
I’m not a Yankee fan, and I have not been bothered one bit by the Jeter lovefest. It’s the fucking allstar game. It’s nothing but a little baseball self promotion. And Jeter may not be the best SS this year but he certainly wasn’t the only player the fans voted in who was not the best at his position. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/136 "2014-07-16T03:04:05Z")
The lovefest for Jeter AND Puig is making me nauseous. They bestowed the MVP award on Jeter after the first at bat. I’m loving that Puig’s ASG is soooo bad. Not a single HR in the home run derby, bad fielding, and no at bats. And this is the … person … that Yahoo Sports is trying to crown as “the next Jeter”. I may puke before this game is over. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/137 "2014-07-16T03:14:20Z")
A double, a single and a run scored. What an embarrassment. You can like Jeter and still believe that all of this is over the top; the same was true of the Mariano Rivera lovefest last year - although I was surprised to learn how many players really cared for Rivera as a man, even moreso than Jeter, I think. That was interesting, but nobody needs three rocking chairs or six paintings of himself. Or if they do, they can buy them. And you can tell this is going to become somewhat obligatory for retiring stars, which is more than a little ridiculous. That said, of course a retiring star made it to the All-Star Game even when he wasn’t playing that well and of course a five-time champion and top-ten guy in hits is getting all kinds of acclaim now that he’s hanging it up. Puig has been amazing over his first year, by the way. The backlash against him has subsided a bit but it was just stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/138 "2014-07-16T04:07:02Z")
They mentioned on the broadcast that Wainwright said he purposefully gave Jeter easy pitches to hit. This pisses me off to no end. First, it’s disrespectful to Jeter and second, your job is to try to win the game. Wonder if Metheny wishes he had started Kershaw now. We might have won. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/139 "2014-07-16T04:08:56Z")
This will end when MLB stops trying to convince us that a game where the fans pick the players and the managers make moves at random “counts.” ---
**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097/140 "2014-07-16T04:13:04Z")
My understanding is that the last five world series have been won by teams with home team advantage. In that regard, I would say it counts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-july/692097.md?page=8)