# MLB: June 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 1, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018 "2011-06-01T23:16:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/161 "2011-06-21T23:25:37Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > I won’t be able to watch the Yanks pound him because MLB considers Cincinnati a local market for Charlotte. It’s only 480 miles away. Grrrrrr. Your condescension is duly noted. In Cincinnati, Johnny Cueto pounds YOU! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/162 "2011-06-21T23:35:37Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Your condescension is duly noted. > > In Cincinnati, Johnny Cueto pounds YOU! > > 😃 Not in the rain, I guess. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/163 "2011-06-21T23:43:40Z")
I wouldn’t want to be pounded in my Cincinnati by _anyone_, really. Not that Johnny Cueto isn’t a nice guy and all that. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/164 "2011-06-22T00:28:48Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > Well, as I said, I’m going to the game tonight. It’s kind of unusual and amusing for me to have the double motivation to root against the Tigers tonight! I’m not complaining, though. Would you have thought just a few years ago that you would be watching an interleague game and actually caring about the results?! ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/165 "2011-06-22T00:33:09Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Would you have thought just a few years ago that you would be watching an interleague game and actually caring about the results?! Well, I certainly wouldn’t have cared about the impact on the AL. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/166 "2011-06-22T00:40:27Z")
That’s right, you are a Tribe fan now too. Well, enjoy the game tonight. Get a Dodger dog for me, and hope that whatever has been wrong with Billingsly has been corrected and whatever has been wrong with Scherzer has gotten worse. ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/167 "2011-06-22T02:35:55Z")
Holy christ. Giants down 8-0 after 1/3 inning… Joe ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/168 "2011-06-22T03:36:23Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > I don’t want to see Prince Fielder run, we should institute a designated runner for the fat guys too.😛 You may be onto something. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/169 "2011-06-22T03:45:41Z")
Lending more weight to the designated runner idea, David Ortiz stole a base tonight. I don’t want to see a clip. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/170 "2011-06-22T06:39:16Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > That’s right, you are a Tribe fan now too. Well, enjoy the game tonight. Get a Dodger dog for me, and hope that whatever has been wrong with Billingsly has been corrected and whatever has been wrong with Scherzer has gotten worse. Enjoyed the game, but skipped the Dodger Dog. Billingsley had to fight it a bit tonight, but he got enough. And for once, the bullpen looked really solid. It was nice to see Kuo back on the mound tonight and pitching well. And even though the stats won’t reflect it, Kemp hit the ball very hard every single time he was up. Kemp is in the 20-20 club after only 75 games. There was also some stellar defense on the field, including a great bare-handed grab by Dee Gordon. A fun effort to watch overall by the Dodgers tonight. It’s hard to get excited about a three-game win streak when you’re still reeling from the five-game losing streak and you’re still sitting well below the .500 mark, but I’ll take it. The Dodgers are currently 3-4 in games I’ve attended this season. Next game is July 5th. ---
**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/171 "2011-06-22T12:01:01Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Lending more weight to the designated runner idea, David Ortiz stole a base tonight. I don’t want to see a clip. Bah. There is no more glorious baseball clip than Bengie Moline getting a cycle by legging out a triple. > [@NAF1138](#): > > Can I buy in? I have always wanted to own part of a baseball team. It looks like it could go cheap. They better be cheap. Mccourt did a good job giving all their assets away. Reportedly the team will owe a $21 million annual lease obligation to a McCourt entity for the club’s use of the parking lots surrounding Dodger Stadium and any ticket revenue in excess of the $6-7 million per year will service McCourt debt" More on that at [http://www.dodgerdivorce.com/](http://www.dodgerdivorce.com/) This is why (along with many other things Mccourt did like keeping his entire family on the payroll), if I’m a player, I’d never agree to a percentage of revenue without a full open audit of team’s books. The commissioner did good in stopping this contract from going through, but they take significant blame in letting Mccourt buy a team in the first place. Mccourt used zero of his own money in the purchase. He traded in some parking lots and made a dodger’s subsidiary borrow the rest. If they were more concerned with owners who could afford their purchases rather than getting yes men this wouldn’t have happened. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/172 "2011-06-22T14:06:35Z")
[Keith Law linked to this blog in his twitter feed the other day.](http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2011/06/21/commissioner-selig-frank-mccourt-must-go-a-petition/) It gives the most detailed explanation of exactly how Frank McCourt has fucked the Dodgers that I have seen and why everyone in baseball should care, not just Dodger fans. What makes me particularly mad is that I don’t think there is any way to get Dodger Stadium or the Parking lots out of Frank’s control even if the team is sold since the team doesn’t own any of those assets anymore. This may result in the Dodgers having to move to a new stadium eventually since part of what is bankrupting them is the need to pay rent just to play baseball games at home. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/173 "2011-06-22T14:08:03Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > The Dodgers are currently 3-4 in games I’ve attended this season. Next game is July 5th. We should start up a collection to get you to more games. By July it might be too late to save the season. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/174 "2011-06-22T15:29:59Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > We should start up a collection to get you to more games. By July it might be too late to save the season. On the one hand, I’m questioning your logic considering the team doesn’t even play .500 ball when I’m around. On the other hand, if you’re going to get me into more games, I’m not really going to fight you. If you’re looking for suggestions, I still haven’t gotten to sit in the Dugout seats. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/175 "2011-06-22T15:40:34Z")
> [@wheresgeorge04](#): > > Holy christ. Giants down 8-0 after 1/3 inning… > > Joe The Giants are imploding. Their hitting has been spectacularly awful all year, and now they have a historically bad starting pitching performance (first 8 batters hit safely). Probably a fluke; Bumgarner has been good but unlucky all year. But their pathetic offense is no fluke. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/176 "2011-06-22T15:47:45Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > On the one hand, I’m questioning your logic considering the team doesn’t even play .500 ball when I’m around. And yet, it’s still an improvement. Sad isn’t it? Hard to believe the Dodgers were in the NLCS just 2 seasons ago. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/177 "2011-06-22T15:49:36Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The Giants are imploding. Their hitting has been spectacularly awful all year, and now they have a historically bad starting pitching performance (first 8 batters hit safely). Probably a fluke; Bumgarner has been good but unlucky all year. But their pathetic offense is no fluke. It’s been more than unlucky. If he was playing on a team with a better defense behind him he would be in better shape. The Giants need nothing short of lights out pitching to win right now which is hard to get. They have been getting it more often than not though. I know I am not all that objective, but I see the Giants easily falling to where the Dodgers are in any starting pitcher gets hurt at this point. The whole NL west is a mess. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/178 "2011-06-22T15:57:59Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > I know I am not all that objective, but I see the Giants easily falling to where the Dodgers are in any starting pitcher gets hurt at this point. The best thing that’s happened to the Giants all year was an injury to a starting pitcher: Vogelsong is a huge upgrade over Barry Zito. But I wouldn’t count on the Giants getting that lucky again. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/179 "2011-06-22T16:05:45Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The best thing that’s happened to the Giants all year was an injury to a starting pitcher: Vogelsong is a huge upgrade over Barry Zito. But I wouldn’t count on the Giants getting that lucky again. True. I was thinking more if Cain, Lincecum or Sanchez gets hurt. I don’t know where the heck Vogelsong came from, but my fantasy team thanks him. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018/180 "2011-06-22T16:19:20Z")
Doubleheader between Reds/Yanks today and tonight due to last night’s rainout. Mike Leake has been the Reds best starter since he stole some t-shirts from a Macy’s store downtown, got sent down and came back up. He’ll pitch in the day game starting in a few minutes. C’mon Reds! We NEED both of these games to keep pace with the Brewers and Cards! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2011/584018.md?page=10)