# MLB: June 2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 1, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765 "2012-06-01T13:59:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/41 "2012-06-07T02:57:13Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Looks right to me. Boston is in last but still .500 and only 4 games out. Philly is the only eastern team below .500 in fact.

That is insane. Who’d have guessed out of all those teams, the Phillies would be the team under .500?

(BTW the reason I wasn’t certain was CBS hadn’t updated their standings yet when I wrote that)

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/42 "2012-06-07T03:12:56Z")

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Good on the Jays for cooling off those White Sox. Because the Indians were aw.ful. against the White Sox, Royals and Twins. Yes even the Twins! So we lost our huge lead on the AL Central and fell behind the Chi Sox.

But for some reason we’re slapping the Tigers around this year. Now have beaten them 5 games in a row, hoping to complete the second sweep tomorrow afternoon.

So if those Jays could just beat the Sox one more time, I do believe we’d be back in first when we go off to St. Louis this weekend (eep!)

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/43 "2012-06-07T19:46:55Z")

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I’ve been watching the Dodgers/Phillies game this afternoon. Interesting that, according to the tv broadcast, if the Dodgers win this game today, this would be their first 4 game sweep in Philadelphia since moving to LA.

I know the 4 game series isn’t common, but this is still an interesting stat.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/44 "2012-06-07T20:08:26Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I’ve been watching the Dodgers/Phillies game this afternoon. Interesting that, according to the tv broadcast, if the Dodgers win this game today, this would be their first 4 game sweep in Philadelphia since moving to LA.
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> I know the 4 game series isn’t common, but this is still an interesting stat.

Since before then. 1946.

Here’s hoping.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/45 "2012-06-07T21:06:00Z")

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Whee! The Dodgers get the sweep. Now if the Giants could all just die in a fire, I’ll be momentarily satisfied.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/46 "2012-06-07T22:29:39Z")

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\*\*MLB News Release: \*\*

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> · Adding HGH blood testing during Spring Training, during the off-season, and for reasonable cause. The parties also agreed to study expanding hGH testing to the regular season.  
> · Increasing the number of random tests during the season and off-season.  
> · Modifying the Collection Procedures of the Program to clarify when collectors must deliver specimens to the courier, and how specimens should be stored prior to delivery to the courier.  
> · Modifying the Appeals procedures of the Program, including the circumstances under which procedural deviations will result in the invalidation of test results.  
> · Creating an Expert Panel of recognized ADD/ADHD experts to advise the Independent Program Administrator (“IPA”) on Therapeutic Use Exemption (“TUE”) applications for ADD/ADHD medications, and another expert panel of medical professionals to advise the IPA on TUE applications for other medications.  
> · Strengthening the protocols for addressing use by players of drugs of abuse.  
> · Permitting public announcement of the specific substance that resulted in a player’s positive test result or discipline.  
> • Making players who are suspended for violating the Program prior to the All-Star Break (including during Spring Training and the preceding off-season) ineligible to be elected or selected for the All-Star Game.  
> • Establishing a protocol for evaluating and treating players who may suffer from an alcohol use problem or who have engaged in off-field violent conduct.  
> • Clarifying the rules for violations for use or possession of prohibited substances based on evidence other than positive test results (“non-analytical positives.”)  
> • Increasing the penalties for criminal convictions for possession or use of drugs of abuse (including stimulants).

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/47 "2012-06-07T22:32:54Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> \*\*MLB News Release: \*\*  
> Clarifying the rules for violations for use or possession of prohibited substances based on evidence other than positive test results (“non-analytical positives.”)

That one seems potentially broad.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/48 "2012-06-07T22:50:29Z")

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I hope Eric Hanhold gets a parade. (He was “Mr Irrelevent” in the draft)

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/49 "2012-06-08T04:12:33Z")

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How is it when I get to watch the Dodgers they look like the Isatopes getting kicked around by the Rockies but as soon as they leave my city they go on to a 4 game sweep. So far the dodgers are 2-4 at Coors field.

On the other hand that’s a pretty cool record to have and some how they’re 5-2 with out kemp this stretch after going 9-5 without him the last time.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/50 "2012-06-08T16:20:40Z")

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Depressing loss for Toronto last night.

Prediction: Henderson Alvarez is going to get beaten like a pinata at some point this year and has at best a 50/50 shot of staying on the big league roster. The relevant evidence:

79 innings pitched  
83 hits, 18 walks, and 13 home runs allowed  
23 strikeouts

Nobody can strike out so few batters and succeed in the big leagues. It cannot be done. You will not find a single starting pitcher in the last thirty years who struck out fewer than 3 men per nine innings and who was successful for longer than four or five months, because it’s impossible to do that. Jamie Moyer was the junkiest junkballer I ever saw, and he consistently got 4-5 guys per 9 innings, at the very WORST; that’s the absolute lower limit you can get and be successful and that’s if you’re an ultra-crafty lefty with forty-three different breaking pitches.

It’s utterly miraculous Alvarez’s ERA is only 3.76; he has been very, very lucky. The gopher balls are going to catch up to him.

I like his style and his stuff, but he was brought up too young and he needs to go back to AA/AAA and learn how to strike guys out.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/51 "2012-06-08T16:25:39Z")

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Just checked for the knuckleballer exception, and Wakefield checks in at 6 per 9 and Charlie Hough at 5.6 per 9 (to Moyer’s 5.4) for their careers, so that sounds about right.

Edited to add: John Halama: 4.9 for the crafty-ish lefty division.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/52 "2012-06-09T03:50:10Z")

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Dang, Kevin Millwood had a no-hitter through 6 for the Mariners (against the Dodgers!), but had to come out of the game with a big blister on his finger ☹

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/53 "2012-06-09T04:08:59Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Dang, Kevin Millwood had a no-hitter through 6 for the Mariners (against the Dodgers!), but had to come out of the game with a big blister on his finger ☹

Correction on update: “Minor groin strain” not “blister”.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/54 "2012-06-09T04:34:38Z")

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The Mariners are bringing in pitcher #5 in their attempt at a combined no-hitter. This is just a weird game.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/55 "2012-06-09T04:51:48Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> The Mariners are bringing in pitcher #5 in their attempt at a combined no-hitter. This is just a weird game.

And here comes Mariner Pitcher #6 for the 9th inning with the Mariners up 1-0.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/56 "2012-06-09T04:59:01Z")

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And it’s official - 6-pitcher combined no-hitter!

Mariners are on a tear the last couple weeks.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/57 "2012-06-09T04:59:25Z")

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And they did it – Mariners no-hit the Dodgers using six pitchers. Apparently the 9th combined no-hitter in history, and the first time the Dodgers have been no-hit since 1994.

On the plus side, the Giants lost, so it doesn’t cost the Dodgers anything in the standings. 😃

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/58 "2012-06-10T01:14:30Z")

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Albert Pujols seems to have gotten over his slow start. Since the middle of May, he’s hit .341/.411/.681 with 8 HR and 24 RBI.

In related news, the Angels are 15-8 over that stretch, after starting the year 16-21.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/59 "2012-06-10T17:53:48Z")

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I had to check twice. The Yankees are playing the Mets today and it is not ESPN’s Sunday Night game. They’re showing the Tigers and Reds against no major sports competition tonight

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/60 "2012-06-10T20:24:51Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I had to check twice. The Yankees are playing the Mets today and it is not ESPN’s Sunday Night game. They’re showing the Tigers and Reds against no major sports competition tonight

Speaking of that… SWEEP!!

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