# MLB: June 2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 1, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765 "2012-06-01T13:59:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/81 "2012-06-13T16:01:07Z")

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Eh, I read that weird. When he said “Pirates in first place” I thought he meant all by their lonesome, which they never were. I’m pretty sure only the Reds and the Cards have been in first in the Central all season long.

Its fun seeing the Pirates play decent baseball for a change. And the Cards…well, they can just stay where they are. They’ve had their successes.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/82 "2012-06-13T16:21:00Z")

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Eh, so have the Reds. Let’s all give it up and start rooting for the Cubs? They could certainly use the help…

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/83 "2012-06-13T16:25:26Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Eh, so have the Reds. Let’s all give it up and start rooting for the Cubs? They could certainly use the help…

There’s rooting for the underdog, and then there’s throwing away your vote…

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/84 "2012-06-13T16:42:00Z")

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> [@Hawkeyeop](#):
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> Trout 345/406/552. 20 years old  
> Harper 307/390/553 19 years old
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> That is all.

I picked up both these guys on one of my fantasy teams, just Trout on the other, so I’ve been paying close attention. They’ve helped me climb back into contention. Trout’s success has really helped the Angels look like the team they were supposed to be before the season started. The Nats are doing well too. Neither is putting up these numbers for a cellar dweller. The future of baseball is bright if these guys can keep it up.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/85 "2012-06-13T17:33:55Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Harper’s season as an 19-year-old is literally unprecedented. Not positive he can keep it up, but if he can we are likely looking at the beginning of an all-time great career.

The number of position players who became major league regulars at age 19 at all is, at least in modern times, a pretty short list.

According to [mlb.com](http://mlb.com), since integration you have four position players who played enough to qualify for the batting title:

Al Kaline - 1954  
Rusty Staub - 1963  
Robin Yount - 1975  
Ken Griffey Jr. - 1989

That’s it. Three Hall of Famers and one darned good ballplayer.

It was a bit more common pre-WWII.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/86 "2012-06-13T22:41:37Z")

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FWIW, Harper is only the fourth teenager to hit a homer at Fenway - following Mantle, Kaline, and Yount. He’s as scary-good as Strasburg.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/87 "2012-06-14T00:10:56Z")

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As a Dodgers fan, I’m really pleased. He’s a really solid guy (currently 58 RBIs, without Kemp in the lineup for a chunk of the season - what does that project to over a season, 120+?) If he’d gone into free agency he could have likely gotten more. This is _not_ like signing Andruw Jones. Great season so far for the Blue, and Tommy still lives!

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/88 "2012-06-14T04:24:04Z")

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A little something going on in San Francisco tonight. The great catch, which always seems to accompany a perfect performance, just was made by Gregor Blanco.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/89 "2012-06-14T04:34:39Z")

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I was mistaken, with tonight’s RBI Ethier is at 55, not 58.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/90 "2012-06-14T04:40:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> FWIW, Harper is only the fourth teenager to hit a homer at Fenway - following Mantle, Kaline, and Yount. He’s as scary-good as Strasburg.

Didn’t Tony C debut as a teen?

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/91 "2012-06-14T04:41:30Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> A little something going on in San Francisco tonight. The great catch, which always seems to accompany a perfect performance, just was made by Gregor Blanco.

I thought Melky’s catch a few innings before was going to be the catch of the game. Boy, was I wrong - Blanco’s was really something!

Joe

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/92 "2012-06-14T04:44:49Z")

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Most no-nos and perfectos have Web Gems along the way.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/93 "2012-06-14T04:52:18Z")

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Woo hoo!

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/94 "2012-06-14T04:52:46Z")

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Matt Cain is perfect! (the 1st Perfect Game in franchise history)

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/95 "2012-06-14T04:54:01Z")

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That last play was \*not \*easy!

Did Jon Miller just say that was the first ever perfect game by a Giant pitcher?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/96 "2012-06-14T04:55:41Z")

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Matched record for K’s in Perfecto. (14 with Koufax)

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/97 "2012-06-14T04:55:57Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> A little something going on in San Francisco tonight. The great catch, which always seems to accompany a perfect performance, just was made by Gregor Blanco.

> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> That last play was \*not \*easy!
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> Did Jon Miller just say that was the first ever perfect game by a Giant pitcher?

Yep.

Joe

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/98 "2012-06-14T04:56:42Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> That last play was \*not \*easy!
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> Did Jon Miller just say that was the first ever perfect game by a Giant pitcher?

Yes he did. (surprised me too)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/99 "2012-06-14T05:04:41Z")

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Amazing performance by Cain. That’s the second this season and since he tied the record for strikeouts in a perfect game, I’d think this has to go down as an elite performance even among perfect games.

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**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2012/623765/100 "2012-06-14T05:06:26Z")

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What a great game! Holy Smokes! and the first perfect game in Giants history? Wow! Cain looked blown away when the told him that.

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