# MLB: June 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 1, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850 "2017-06-01T17:15:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/21 "2017-06-04T00:28:11Z")

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First no-hitter of the season. Congrats to Edison Volquez.

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**Author:** ![from\_a\_to\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5fc32e/32.png) [@from\_a\_to\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/from_a_to_z)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/22 "2017-06-04T02:35:04Z")

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> [@Club\_33](#):
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> Congrats to Edison Volquez.

Yes indeed. As Wikipedia notes, his former teammate and fellow Dominican, the late [Yordano Ventura](http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/ventuyo01.shtml), was born on June 3.

> [@Casey1505](#):
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> When a player is suspended, is he banned from the clubhouse, or just the game?

Per [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_banned_from_Major_League_Baseball#Punishment) un-cited Wikipedia article, perhaps also banned from the clubhouse (“suspended” in the article looks like it also includes “banned”) – “The exact privileges that will be afforded for each special event is determined by the Commissioner - invariably, access to the clubhouse and related facilities by banned persons will not be permitted.” I thought that the Basic Agreement (the 2012-2016 one is [here](http://www.mlbplayers.com/pdf9/4923509.pdf)) would have something, but either I used the wrong search terms or it doesn’t.

And, Dodgers fans, what a [game today](https://www.mlb.com/gameday/dodgers-vs-brewers/2017/06/03/490934#game_state=final,game_tab=box,game=490934) with the Brewers – 2 grand slams, 1 each by Shaw and Taylor – and Jansen’s 9th save. He has [now](http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/dodgers-closer-kenley-jansen-sets-mlb-record/v5alxwytydtd1waxvu9cunb6x) begun 2017 with 40 K’s and 0 BB’s (today 1 and 0).

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/23 "2017-06-04T03:58:52Z")

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Congrats on reaching 600 homers in a career, Albert Pujols! Nice touch to do it with a grand slam.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/24 "2017-06-04T17:10:10Z")

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> [@from\_a\_to\_z](#):
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> And, Dodgers fans, what a [game today](https://www.mlb.com/gameday/dodgers-vs-brewers/2017/06/03/490934#game_state=final,game_tab=box,game=490934) with the Brewers – 2 grand slams, 1 each by Shaw and Taylor – and Jansen’s 9th save. He has [now](http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/dodgers-closer-kenley-jansen-sets-mlb-record/v5alxwytydtd1waxvu9cunb6x) begun 2017 with 40 K’s and 0 BB’s (today 1 and 0).

Both games in this series have been great. First, a supreme pitching duel that went into the 12th, then less of a pitching duel as we exchanged grand slams. Gotta love those come from behind wins. Hope we can sweep today.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/25 "2017-06-04T19:48:52Z")

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The great thing :dubious: about really bad baseball announcers is that even the legendarily objectionable ones like Ken Harrelson face challenges to their reign of incompetence.

Yesterday afternoon I briefly tuned in to the K.C. Royals radio broadcast on satellite. At the time, the Indians were leading the Royals 3-0, and the play-by-play guy, Mushmouth told us that the Indians’ hitter Carlos Santana had homered off Jason Hammel in his previous at-bat on the first pitch he saw from Hammel, “a fastball that caught too much of the plate”. This time, Hammel starts Santana off with a low slider, and Mushmouth immediately starts in about how Hammel’s problem all year has been that he tries to get too cute and doesn’t challenge the hitters.

Um, you were telling us only seconds ago how Hammel got burned by a home run after challenging Santana with a fastball in the strike zone! Do you not listen to the stupid coming out of your mouth?

Epilogue: Hammel went on to pitch well and got the win as the Royals crushed the Indians 12-5.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/26 "2017-06-05T01:28:31Z")

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[Luis Gonzales pulls woman from burning car.](https://sports.yahoo.com/news/diamondbacks-legend-luis-gonzalez-saves-woman-fiery-car-crash-193319796.html)

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> Gonzalez jumped into action after seeing a car jump the median and collide with another vehicle, according to the Arizona Republic.
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> “I just reacted. I didn’t think about it, to be honest with you,” Gonzalez said Saturday morning.
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> - “I was just trying to get the lady out of the car,” Gonzalez said. “She was a little dazed and groggy. I was like, ‘Open the door, open the door, the other car is on fire.’ I didn’t know if the car was going to blow up or something because I was seeing flames coming out of it.”\*
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> Gonzalez and a friend, Mike Mehan, managed to pull the woman from the car and get her to safety. The third man in the group, Artie Cuffari, called 911 and managed to get video of the aftermath. The video shows Gonzalez holding the woman after the crash as a firefighter attempts to put out the flames.

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/27 "2017-06-05T02:43:18Z")

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The Nats’ “bullpen” strikes again. They took an 11-4 lead into the bottom of the 9th and Oakland pulled to within 11-10 before finally losing (including a grand slam by Matt Joyce (he of the .195 batting average).

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**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/28 "2017-06-05T14:15:13Z")

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Gosh nice to see the Jays take two of the first three of the four game series they have with the Yanks. Doesn’t feel like they’re up 2-1 in the series what with the Yanks’ 17-2 drubbing of them in the first game and how the Yanks led for most of the game yesterday. I have to eat my words of an earlier sarcastic post of mine about relying on Justin Smoak, who’s actually having a fine season so far - definitely been the biggest surprise for me. Good to see Travis finally coming around and getting his batting average up there. Thank-you Josh for cutting that stupid shit off the back of your head.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/29 "2017-06-05T14:17:55Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> Gosh nice to see the Jays take two of the first three of the four game series they have with the Yanks. Doesn’t feel like they’re up 2-1 in the series what with the Yanks’ 17-2 drubbing of them in the first game and how the Yanks led for most of the game yesterday. I have to eat my words of an earlier sarcastic post of mine about relying on Justin Smoak, who’s actually having a fine season so far - definitely been the biggest surprise for me. Good to see Travis finally coming around and getting his batting average up there. Thank-you Josh for cutting that stupid shit off the back of your head.

Uh, the series is over. Toronto split 2-2.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/30 "2017-06-05T17:06:37Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> Uh, the series is over. Toronto split 2-2.

Also, the 17-2 drubbling was Toronto beating Cincinnati. New York won the first game of the Toronto series 12-2.

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/31 "2017-06-06T01:14:09Z")

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:smack: Holy shite I’ve made a few sleepy-head posts this week :smack:

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/32 "2017-06-06T15:55:10Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> John Lester overcame the yips long enough to pick a runner off at first base in the Cubs/Cardinals game.

Cue **Happy Gilmore** quote:

“Uh, oh! Happy learned how to putt!”

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/33 "2017-06-07T05:14:24Z")

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Well Christ-on-a-walker it looks like Devon Travis felt his leg locking up (bone bruise to his right knee with a cartilage injury) while disembarking from a plane and is on the DL again - the 15th Jay put on the DL this season. (Wonder how that ranks among the rest.) This hits the Jays pretty hard - he was a major factor (along with Tepera, Smoak, and a rallying Bautista) in the Jays’ May resurgence. He figures he did something to his (inner) knee the same game he took a pitch off his wrist. Eight months ago, it was his _outer_ right knee that gave him problems.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/34 "2017-06-07T05:39:35Z")

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Red Sox announcer Jerry Lemy says that taking a translator on a mound visit should be [illegal](https://sports.yahoo.com/red-sox-announcer-wants-translators-banned-learn-baseball-language-014613750.html).

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/35 "2017-06-07T13:10:40Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> Well Christ-on-a-walker it looks like Devon Travis felt his leg locking up (bone bruise to his right knee with a cartilage injury) while disembarking from a plane and is on the DL again - the 15th Jay put on the DL this season. (Wonder how that ranks among the rest.) This hits the Jays pretty hard - he was a major factor (along with Tepera, Smoak, and a rallying Bautista) in the Jays’ May resurgence.

I resigned myself long ago to the notion that Travis is just one of those people whose body is not equipped to withstand playing regular baseball. There’s just some people who can go out there and twist and turn and thrown and take the abuse of the sport (and contrary to what some people will tell you, baseball is a really, really tough sport on your body) and there are some people who just can’t.

Ryan Goins is a pretty good fill-in who tends to hit better the more he plays, so this isn’t a position where the team is desperate. And hey, Brett Lawrie’s unemployed if they need another infielder. I am not exactly sure WHY Lawrie is unemployed; I know he never became the star people were hoping for, but he’s 27, can play multiple positions, runs well, hits okay. He seems like a guy who’d be awfully useful to have around. There are much worse players on MLB rosters.

This being the MLB thread would be remiss in not mentioned that Scooter Gennett had, uh, kind of a good night for the Reds. You know, pretty nice performance at the plate, what with hitting four home runs and all, you know. Not too shabby, the first time in the history of the major leagues a guy homered for the cycle. Decent performance, probably the star of the game.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/36 "2017-06-07T13:31:39Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Red Sox announcer Jerry Lemy says that taking a translator on a mound visit should be [illegal](https://sports.yahoo.com/red-sox-announcer-wants-translators-banned-learn-baseball-language-014613750.html).

Not enough eye-rolls for this one. Yes, it’s OK to pluck superstar talent from all over the world in order to make the game as fun to watch as it can be, but somehow, we’re ruining it by allowing these furriners on the mound before they can talk like us.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/37 "2017-06-07T14:53:28Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Red Sox announcer Jerry Lemy says that taking a translator on a mound visit should be [illegal](https://sports.yahoo.com/red-sox-announcer-wants-translators-banned-learn-baseball-language-014613750.html).

The beauty of baseball is that it transcends this flavor of bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/38 "2017-06-07T15:49:56Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> This being the MLB thread would be remiss in not mentioned that Scooter Gennett had, uh, kind of a good night for the Reds. You know, pretty nice performance at the plate, what with hitting four home runs and all, you know. Not too shabby, the first time in the history of the major leagues a guy homered for the cycle. Decent performance, probably the star of the game.

Interestingly, he’s the first player in Reds history to hit 4 home runs in a game.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/39 "2017-06-07T15:53:55Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Interestingly, he’s the first player in Reds history to hit 4 home runs in a game.

Most of the teams are waiting for their first. The Phillies, however, have three.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mlb-june-2017/787850/40 "2017-06-07T16:56:11Z")

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Given that it’s only the 17th time it’s been done, a lot of teams must be waiting for their first. It’s a more rare event than a perfect game.

Certainly Gennett has to be the most unlikely modern player to have a 4-homer game; I don’t think anyone would call Pat Seerey or Mark Whiten great players, but at least they were power hitters; Seerey just struck out to much to stick around long, and Whiten had bouts of injuries and ineffectivness but when he was healthy and on he could mash.

What is perhaps interesting is to note that the 4-homer game, while still awfully unusual, is becoming more frequent. We’ve had five 4-homer games (Mike Cameron, Shawn Green, Carlos Delgado, Josh Hamilton, and now Gennett) in the last 15 years, and just 12 of them in the preceding more-than-a-century. Players hit more homers than ever. So maybe we’ll see a five-homer game…

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